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Steel Armadillo

11-12-2011, 04:09 PM

The Steel Armadillo can get almost anything you need for your Jeep through our affiliate program, let me know what you need and I will see if I can get it for you for a better price!

Right now we have a great deal on a Smittybilt winch on the web site at www.thesteelarmadillo.com

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/SmittybiltXRC8Winch-1.jpg

Holaday07 4.7

11-12-2011, 06:48 PM

A belly skid

Omelet

11-12-2011, 07:07 PM

Front diff gears!!! I will take a set of 4.56 please :D

Steel Armadillo

11-12-2011, 10:31 PM

A belly skid

Front skid plate will be finished this week, I hope to get to the belly skid plate by next week.

Steel Armadillo

11-12-2011, 10:32 PM

Front diff gears!!! I will take a set of 4.56 please :D

If you can find a set out there I can see if I can beat the price.

Matt

11-13-2011, 07:44 AM

Spacers for the rear suspension... maybe 1/2" and 1" options.

The 1/2" would be great in combination with the 1/2" front leveling spacer (which is 1/4 thick, just to be clear for anyone reading this), and the 1" option would be great for us lifted guys who want to get some "rake" back after installing a lift that brings the front up level with the rear.

The_War_Wagon

11-13-2011, 02:51 PM

More MONEY. That'll take care of the REST. http://www.theultimatejeep.com/images/icons/icon6.png

Sal-XK

11-13-2011, 04:09 PM

More MONEY. That'll take care of the REST. http://www.theultimatejeep.com/images/icons/icon6.png

LMAO Just Empty Every Pocket My favorite thing to say is I'm broke I own a Jeep.

Holaday07 4.7

11-13-2011, 06:40 PM

Another cool idea I had. Rear Corner guards. I dont know how you would make them though

Holaday07 4.7

11-13-2011, 07:04 PM

LWM

11-13-2011, 07:13 PM

to not have your bumper do this

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135002_135-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135008_837-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135015_451-1.jpg

I had damage to my Commander when I was in an accident on the freeway, the Get lost 4x4 Bumper mounting system is NOT the way we will be going.

Steel Armadillo

11-13-2011, 07:16 PM

to not have your bumper do this

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135002_135-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135008_837-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/20111113_135015_451-1.jpg

As you can see from the photos, the Get Lost 4x4 bumper bolted on by drilling through the front frame cross rail which is only spot welded to the frame. The frame is only as strong as the spot welds, we will not be using this mounting system but actually bolt directly to the frame.

Holaday07 4.7

11-13-2011, 09:16 PM

hahah I just was shocked to see this. Both fenders, hood, frame, grill, etc all trashed

Sal-XK

11-14-2011, 09:51 AM

Holaday07 4.7

11-14-2011, 09:56 AM

Kind of the guys fault too though. He got into some deep mud and was sitting on the frame. Instead of pulling him out the way he went in, they pulled him forward and Jerked it. Big no no in mud recovery to pull into what stoped you.

Sucks it trashed his commander though.

Sal-XK

11-17-2011, 06:25 AM

holy crap :eek: That sucks! Who's XK is that I don't remember seeing that before? I think I would have to kill someone but then again while installing it I think I would of noticed how weak the mounting system is and fixed it.

I didn't realize this was crunchy's XK till today just saw it on the other forum. I feel bad for the dude now, he's a pretty nice guy and is having some bad wheeling luck lately :)

El Cid

11-17-2011, 05:03 PM

Seeing these pictures all I can think of is how back in the "other forum," when I first announced Matrix fitment for the XK, Get Lost started ranting up and down about how terrible 4xGuard was and how engineering and structural design and computer modeling wasn't worth anything compared to his All Powerful Experience. Then, to prove how superior he was, he said this:

"I have been build bumpers on my vehicles and other vehicles for a few years, I understand metal and have been trained in metal fabrication. I've ripped stuff off my toyota because I didn't add enough metal to spread the load enough."

At the time I honestly laughed at how he claimed that his track record of failures in building bumpers was legitimate proof of his mastery in building bumpers. Looking at these pics from a fellow XK owner, I now feel sad. :(

El Cid

11-17-2011, 05:05 PM

Another cool idea I had. Rear Corner guards. I dont know how you would make them though

I actually designed some for 4xGuard, though we never advanced to prototyping before the business was sold. So it can be done.

cico7

11-17-2011, 06:54 PM

Holaday07 4.7

11-17-2011, 07:05 PM

I actually designed some for 4xGuard, though we never advanced to prototyping before the business was sold. So it can be done.

How much for the plans or prototypes. I feel there is a better need for these than the rear sliders

Holaday07 4.7

11-17-2011, 07:08 PM

aout the time he was banned wasn't it?

Worse thing I can think of for any company is to uplift their own product by stepping on another. I dont know what happened, but that sucks

El Cid

11-17-2011, 10:59 PM

Worse thing I can think of for any company is to uplift their own product by stepping on another.

It was something to see. He (GetLost4x4) angrily went on and on about how completely superior his mounting system was -- something these pictures don't exactly confirm -- and then after some pressure he admitted that he had never seen the 4xGuard mounting system. He knew absolutely nothing about the thing he was attacking.

Sigh.

It's an easy temptation to pop off about your own product. I understand that. But you're absolutely right, Holaday, that it's not generally wise to talk down about other products at the same time -- especially if you don't actually know what you're talking about. That sort of thing almost always backfires. Add in the anger with which he approached the situation and ... well, I felt (and feel) truly sad for him. I have to think he was going through something tough personally to do that kind of thing.

I think he was indeed banned around then, cico. His first banning, anyway. He came back under some other name later and would rail against anything I said. At one point in his second incarnation I remember him all-caps screaming that I was lying about the fact that I have Aries tail-light guards ... in a thread in which I detailed the mounting process with pictures. His second banning wasn't long after that, I think. Like I said, it was pretty sad.

It was also unfortunate since despite the problems his products caused he was a strong figure in pushing the platform out there on the trails. A real pity.

All this to illustrate not only how very differently some businesses behave, but also how important it is to get the engineering right. I'm suspecting that when it comes to the mounting system, at least, Steel Armadillo is going to zig where Get Lost zagged, if you know what I mean!

How much for the plans or prototypes. I feel there is a better need for these than the rear sliders

I disagree about the relative worth of Corner Guards (that's what we were going to call them, of course) compared to the 4xGuard Rear Sliders. I've been in serious love with the Sliders since we first started mock-ups years ago. At the same time, I do think that the Corner Guards would be pretty useful. Combine them with Sliders and 4xG's Rear Guard 2 and you effectively have all the benefits of a steel rear bumper replacement without as much weight added on. You'd be protected in the same problem areas, it would look waaaaay cooler (I think), and there's very little damage done to the vehicle itself if you were wanting to strip it off in order to sell the vehicle or something like that.

As I said, we never went to prototype on them, though: I came up with the design -- it's a bit like the Matrix in terms of its complexity -- and I executed a basic proof-of-concept mockup, but then other things took precedence in the production queue and they got put on the backburner. Then the business sold.

As it happens, I was actually talking today with another manufacturer about dipping into my pool of unborn designs. He was specifically after two other products -- also cool things, one for the XK and one for the WK/XK -- and I haven't had time to even contemplate where it all might lead. So give me time ... or give me an offer I can't refuse. ;)

Steel Armadillo

11-18-2011, 10:14 AM

As I said, we never went to prototype on them, though: I came up with the design -- it's a bit like the Matrix in terms of its complexity -- and I executed a basic proof-of-concept mockup, but then other things took precedence in the production queue and they got put on the backburner. Then the business sold.

As it happens, I was actually talking today with another manufacturer about dipping into my pool of unborn designs. He was specifically after two other products -- also cool things, one for the XK and one for the WK/XK -- and I haven't had time to even contemplate where it all might lead. So give me time ... or give me an offer I can't refuse. ;)

For what it is worth, I think it's in poor taste to intercede in the thread for a competing product in order to promote your own.

I guess it is okay for you but not me to make a mistake and post in other business threads promoting what you are doing? :confused:

El Cid

11-18-2011, 10:31 AM

In case you don't remember, Knappster/Steel Armadillo, you are the one who asked the questions about my designs. Shall I ignore your questions next time?

Besides which, trying to flip this accusation against me doesn't make any sense. I have no competing products, after all. I have no business. I have nothing to promote.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but you're really only proving the point I was trying to make before. Your personal business interest is leading you to attack an enthusiast for being an enthusiast. It's your forum, but I sure hate to see it go down that road.

(And this after I went out of my way to throw Steel Armadillo a bone by pointing out how your design appears to be better than Get Lost's? Seriously?)

Ross

11-18-2011, 04:21 PM

An external roll cage with possibly mounting points onto steel armadillo and/or 4xguard side guards.

LWM

11-18-2011, 04:32 PM

An external roll cage with possibly mounting points onto steel armadillo side guards.

Our rock rails are tubular so attachment of a tube exo-skeleton would look cool.

Ross

11-18-2011, 09:41 PM

I saw a tubular style roll cage on a cherokee and it looked sweet

06blkhemi

11-19-2011, 08:47 PM

i saw some 1/4 panel side protection on an xj forum. they went from the back of the back door,to the tail light. from the bottom of the back,side window,down to the lower part of the 1/4 panel.they were alluminum diamond plate,powder coated black!I'd also like to see some steal box, tail lights. also avail. for the xj. they get rid of the plastic tail lights. a steal box replaces them and they put round LED lights in them. no more broken plastic tail lights from rubbing or backing into a tree with them! since our xk's look like grown up xj's. anything that looks cool on a xj will look sweet on our xk's!

Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 08:09 AM

I agree! Steel corners would be sweet.

Steel Armadillo

11-20-2011, 08:58 AM

i saw some 1/4 panel side protection on an xj forum. they went from the back of the back door,to the tail light. from the bottom of the back,side window,down to the lower part of the 1/4 panel.they were alluminum diamond plate,powder coated black!

I agree! Steel corners would be sweet.

I will work on this, this sounds like a quick project and we are looking for a few items that do not take as long as the bumpers do to R & D.

Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 01:03 PM

I will work on this, this sounds like a quick project and we are looking for a few items that do not take as long as the bumpers do to R & D.

Another idea i had would be pretty cool if you wheel tight trails with trees. I have already put the roof of the XK up against a tree and had to get a couple guys to push the top to get me by it. I have seen a tube type slider to go over the rear doors and back end. Let me find pics of this.

Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 01:13 PM

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/xj-roof-sliders-740912/

http://www.hdoffroadengineering.com/collections/frontpage/products/xj-roof-sliders

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/RoofSlider-1.jpg

I like the last one best, but I think there would be a market for these on our Jeeps. If you make them I would but them for sure

Sal-XK

11-20-2011, 01:15 PM

Why don't you guys just build an exoskeleton LMAO

Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 01:41 PM

Why don't you guys just build an exoskeleton LMAO

Lol, yeah that would be cool but I like that my Jeep still looks stock for the most part. The pic I put up is just an extension of the roof rack almost.

Sal-XK

11-20-2011, 02:12 PM

Lol, yeah that would be cool but I like that my Jeep still looks stock for the most part. The pic I put up is just an extension of the roof rack almost.

Seems to me that is something you can make your self pretty easy. Just weld a tube to your roof rack or something.

Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 03:40 PM

Seems to me that is something you can make your self pretty easy. Just weld a tube to your roof rack or something.

Yeah probably. Just trying to throw out some ideas for John. Sorry my ideas are not cool enough Sal lol

Sal-XK

11-20-2011, 04:37 PM

Yeah probably. Just trying to throw out some ideas for John. Sorry my ideas are not cool enough Sal lol

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Holaday07 4.7

11-20-2011, 04:57 PM

Real mature old man!! lol JK

Sal-XK

11-20-2011, 05:38 PM

Real mature old man!! lol JK :)

The_War_Wagon

11-21-2011, 06:34 AM

Why don't you guys just build an exoskeleton LMAO

Once the warranty expires, I want Securefoam! https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/smileyhappy009-1.gif

http://youtu.be/RnyhkBU1yaw

criket

11-22-2011, 10:16 AM

LOL, I could just imagine how sluggish my 3.7 would be after an exocage. The 265 tires kill it as is.

06blkhemi

11-22-2011, 10:35 AM

LOL, I could just imagine how sluggish my 3.7 would be after an exocage. The 265 tires kill it as is. thats why i'm glad i got the hemi! mine doesnt even know the tires are any different! but ,i have no need for an exocage.

Doc in AZ

11-25-2011, 04:11 PM

how about something like this for the commander... takes care of the body armor, roll cage, roof rack, winch bumper and tire carrier with gas cans in one shot =)

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/101_0770-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/101_0767-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/11/101_0760-1.jpg

cis911

11-26-2011, 09:34 AM

GPintheMitten

11-27-2011, 08:06 AM

You guys are being a little harsh to GetLost4x4 I think.

I have his prototype of a front receiver hitch. I think the bumper and my front receiver mount in the same fashion. I would not take a running yank using it, which is what I think happened with CrunchyWizards. It mounts to the side rails as well as through the cross bar. But it attaches to unibody sheet steel, and you're right, it is only as strong as the sheet steel and welds it attaches to.

It works great as a winch mount and tow connection but you have to use it right. You can break anything by abusing it.

That said, I applaud SteelArmadillo for looking for ways to add strength.

GetLost4x4 did show his stress in negative ways a few times. He was trying to make his company work and didn't get enough buyers to make it a go to support his family. He had 2 userids over time because he had a private one and then later started the business and used his business id. He was banned because of disagreements with the administration, not because he treated other forum members poorly. They wanted more money than he could afford to be a sponsor and I think he tried to continue doing business after he did not renew his sponsorship.

GetLost4x4 had a good reputation with many people on the other forum and was encouraged by many to continue to build things for the XK, when no one else was making the products he was making. If I recall correctly, the only forum member he had a heated argument with was ElCid. And I think he didn't represent himself well in his debate with ElCid.

I personally was sad to see his business not succeed and him leave that forum. But he went back to college to complete his degree.

You're right, you should not bash competitor's products, but I don't think we should bash him personally either. Nor should you take pleasure in his demise.

LWM

11-27-2011, 09:07 AM

You guys are being a little harsh to GetLost4x4 I think.

I personally was sad to see his business not succeed and him leave that forum. But he went back to college to complete his degree.

You're right, you should not bash competitor's products, but I don't think we should bash him personally either. Nor should you take pleasure in his demise.

Well said! Ross is a great guy and started the ball rolling for many of us.

HueyPilotVN

11-27-2011, 07:42 PM

I also never had a problem with Ross. He made me a couple of different products and they are still working fine. I met Ross in Chicago for a tour of our plant and an interview. I wanted to hire him but our orders were down and the timing was not right. I was impressed with his abilities and was glad when he choose to return to college for his degree.

Ross

11-27-2011, 08:18 PM

Hey Doc, what do you think it would cost for a similar exoskeloton for a commander?
-Ross

The_War_Wagon

12-02-2011, 06:48 AM

I ALMOST got my wish... sort of... This happened about a quarter mile from my OLD office ('02-'06)!!! :eek:

Money Remains Missing After $200K Blows Out Of Armored Van (http://www.wpxi.com/news/29891741/detail.html)
(http://www.wpxi.com/news/29891741/detail.html)Only $400 has been returned so far! :p With $200k, I could order a Viper V-10 crate engine, and I could build Jeepzilla!!! :D

El Cid

12-02-2011, 06:20 PM

Someone once mentioned that 4xGuard should make XK foglight guards. I remember thinking it was kind of silly at first, but then the more I thought about it I thought it would be pretty darn cool. I made some aesthetic designs for the guard, but I never took the time to figure out a no-drill mount for it.

So if Steel Armadillo could figure out a no-drill mounting system, I think that'd be a dynamite little product that's cheap but useful!