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Matt
08-09-2012, 07:30 PM
There are a lot of good shocks out there that will work great on our WK/XK's, but they're not listed in application guides. I put this together to help members select shocks beyond the very few "off the shelf" selections that are available.

Here's what i've gathered based off my own experience and/or research"

Length:
Fully extended length of 27.5 is ideal. Anything significantly longer will require brake line extensions (or modify the mount which is pretty easy). Anything shorter and you're sacrificing articulation for no good reason.
Fully compressed length of 17" is OK, as long as you install 2" bump stop extensions since stock compressed length is 15".
-->Click here to jump to Brake Line Extension thread<-- (http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?2306-Brake-Line-Extensions)
-->Click here to jump to Bump Stop Extension thread<-- (http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?1977-Extended-bump-stops)

Bilstein Valving:
170/60-180/75 I've seen this range used and people say they like the ride. I personally think this is too soft for the weight of our vehicles BUT might be good for a smoother on-road ride if you're basically using it as a modified DD.
255/70 Seems to be the ideal valving for these vehicles based on weight/spring rates. You should have a good on road ride and improved offroad performance.
275/78 This may be best suited for the weight of a V8 loaded XK with heavy springs (OME HD) that's offroad often; will help maintain clearance when coming off the rocks while wheeling.

FOX Valving
Fox uses a different valving system thats a percentage of available damping for compression/rebound. So a 40/60 setup (which i believe is their "standard" if you order pre-built shocks) is 40% available compression and 60% available rebound. There aren't a lot of WK/XK members running these shocks so I'll list the members and what they're running for now:

Omelet- 30/60 (originally 30/90)
TrialByFire- 30/60
06JeepXKHEMI - 30/90
Matt - 40/80

I've created a spreadsheet to keep track of shocks I've acquired the p/n's and specs for-
which can be downloaded -->by clicking here here<-- (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24438380/Rear%20Shocks.xlsx)


I'll continually update that spreadsheet as I get more information. And if anyone has ANY questions, post up!

Update

Members running shocks from spreadsheet:
1) 06JeepXKHEMI
P/N 980-02-038-A
FOX 2.0 Emulsion shocks from JBA.
Click here for more info (http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?2295-Fox-Emulsion-rear-shocks)

2) Matt
P/N 980-02-039 with 815-00-036
Fox 2.0 Emulsion Remote Resi shocks with CD adjuster
Click here for more info (http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?2305-FOX-2-0-Reservoir-Mounting&p=43763&viewfull=1#post43763)

3) Core-XK
P/N RS999286
Rancho 9000XL adjustable rear shocks.
Click here for more info (http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?2006-The-Real-Deal-Rear-Shocks-for-2-quot-lifts&p=35986&viewfull=1#post35986)

07JeepXK
08-09-2012, 08:12 PM
I like my OME rear shocks and they are not that expensive.

Matt
08-09-2012, 08:16 PM
The OME's too short for me, and im looking for a shock I can adjust the pressure on and adjust the valving if I decide to. There's quite a few standard mono-tube shocks that'll work well and that are within the OME price range, but I've got to the point with my XK where there's not much left to adjust.... so im going to focus on optimizing performance where I can; rear shocks is next up (within reason of course, I'm not looking at some $400/ea shocks). Hopefully in the mean-time more front strut options will become available.

Edit: my spreadsheet includes the OME p/n as well as some monotube options such as bilstein 5150 and Rancho RS7000 which area all higher end "budget" shocks like the OME.

07JeepXK
08-09-2012, 08:22 PM
To short?? Hmmm I noticed that they are long enough for the rear coil to become loose when the rear is flexed out with the JKS quicker disconnects still connected.

Matt
08-09-2012, 08:27 PM
As long as the coil isn't in danger of falling out, it's not a big deal if it becomes loose. 27.5" (the length of the MLL's a lot of us are running, even without sway bars) also has the coil come loose, but not too far. At >27.5" the brake lines for the calipers turn into the limiting factor.

07JeepXK
08-09-2012, 08:29 PM
Yeah I know it's not a big deal for it to come loose but a shock any longer than the OME and the coil will fall right out. If I were to disconnect the rear I'm sure it would fall out

Matt
08-09-2012, 08:31 PM
There's no possible way my OME coils would fall out with my 27.5" long shocks and sway bar disconnected. I've had it fully flexed out many times. I'll show you on Sunday :p (And its not an issue for Sal with stock coils on the RC lift)

Have you measured the actual length of the OME rear shocks? Wonder if their posted specs are wrong and they're actually ~27+ as well

Edit: As a matter of fact, when I just did my extended bump stops last week, I could not have gotten the springs back in without the shocks disconnected and still struggling a bit (more so on the driver side). I have my gas tank skid trimmed to the point where the lower radius arm will hit the actual tank, so that side will drop as far as physically possible without the shock attached.

07JeepXK
08-09-2012, 08:41 PM
I didn't mean to say fall right out. I meant loose enough to break the spring seat and just kind of sitting there

Matt
08-09-2012, 08:49 PM
Oh, yeah that'll happen. But there's no issue with that because our rear springs dont have a specific rotational orientation that they need to "sit" in. They'll re-seat once the suspension comes back down. There's technically no difference between 1/8" of clearance and 1" of clearance as long as they're retained.

This picture was taken with my rear shocks still attached. I pulled down the upper isolator to measure the bump stop mount:

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/07/20120717184420-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/07/20120717184913-1.jpg

This picture is with the rear extended about 2" beyond where my 27.5" shocks will let the axle extend to. At this point, I would definitly be concerned with the spring coming out! :eek:

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/07/20120729105619-1.jpg

Matt
08-09-2012, 09:03 PM
also remember, when I make you those 1/2" spacers that'll take up any space you see now at full extension. I'm planning on running 1" spacers which will take up almost all of that extra space shown in the first pic I posted.

07JeepXK
08-10-2012, 03:34 AM
Nice. I could use the extra 1/2 inch spacer in the rear. I hate how my XK sits now that the front end is higher.

Core XK
08-10-2012, 04:17 AM
Were theese the shocks you mentioned to me?

06JeepXKHEMI
08-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Just measured the OME rear shock I have waiting to be installed, it measures just over 27" from mounting point to mounting point, not sure if thats where it should be measured but just to give an idea..

Matt
08-10-2012, 07:16 AM
Were theese the shocks you mentioned to me?

Yeah man. :)


Just measured the OME rear shock I have waiting to be installed, it measures just over 27" from mounting point to mounting point, not sure if thats where it should be measured but just to give an idea..

They should be measured from the center of each eye. Is that where you measured from? If so, they're not as short as their spec says

06JeepXKHEMI
08-10-2012, 07:26 AM
Yup eye to eye 27", thought Id help the thread since mine are lying next to me staring at me!!!

07JeepXK
08-10-2012, 08:06 AM
What do there spec's say Matt?

Matt
08-10-2012, 09:06 AM
They claim 25.90" extended length. Being slightly over 27" is a big difference and puts them in the ballpark of the length of the other shocks im looking at. Note that I still want a rebuildable higher end shock that I can adjust the pressure in... but at least knowing their spec is off puts those OME's back on par with other standard monotube shocks that are available at "desireable" lengths.

Matt
08-30-2012, 08:29 AM
Just an update: installed the Rancho 9000XL's on Corey's Xk.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120825120847-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120825192931-1.jpg

AJeepZJ
08-30-2012, 09:00 AM
Everything I've heard about these shocks on other Jeeps has been pretty cool. Pretty interested in seeing how they serve the heavier WK/XK crowd.

Matt
08-30-2012, 09:04 AM
I actually ran them back in the day on my lifted explorer. Being able to adjust the damping was pretty cool..... kept them softer for DD and firmer for offroading or towing.

Core XK
08-30-2012, 09:04 AM
Everything I've heard about these shocks on other Jeeps has been pretty cool. Pretty interested in seeing how they serve the heavier WK/XK crowd.

Mine are on the softest setting right now; I think today I will change it and see how they feel :)

Matt
08-30-2012, 09:07 AM
I was going to ask if you changed then yet.

And can you comment on the ride characteristics between the stock shocks and the 9000's on the softest setting?

Core XK
08-30-2012, 09:21 AM
I was going to ask if you changed then yet.

And can you comment on the ride characteristics between the stock shocks and the 9000's on the softest setting?

I don't feel every single bump anymore with the new shocks, and the ones I do feel (pot holes, large grates etc.) it handles them in a much smoother way (Less hard vibration)

I am interested to see if I actually like how the shocks feel with full firm setting. I will drive a few days with them on that setting and update.

peteyturbo
09-11-2012, 10:05 PM
I am liking the Pro Comps.. I too would like some adjustability although 99% of my driving is on road..I will be ordering the OME HD springs very soon, just trying to decide on shocks and struts..I get better discounts on just about everything OTHER then OME/ARB.. Anyone have opinions on struts other then the usual bilstien/OME?? I would be looking for someting more performance oriented then a stock equivelant but can't really find anything..

Matt
09-12-2012, 04:19 AM
There's really nothing else out there except for some stock equivalent options.

peteyturbo
09-12-2012, 10:33 AM
There's really nothing else out there except for some stock equivalent options.

Do you think the OME is much of an improvement over stock equivelant or bilstien? Or should I just go KYB GR2 for under 150 a pair?

Matt
09-12-2012, 10:36 AM
For offroading? Yes. The damping characteristics are a huge improvement over stock. For daily driving it boils down to the type of ride quality you like to determine which is "better".

peteyturbo
09-12-2012, 10:44 AM
For offroading? Yes. The damping characteristics are a huge improvement over stock. For daily driving it boils down to the type of ride quality you like to determine which is "better".

How about compared to a full set of 5100's? Would I run into any geometry issues being that the 5100's are designed for stock ride height? I would be more concerned with on road characteristics since it rarely goes off road. I would be using ome hd coils..

Matt
09-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Aren't the Bilstein front struts the 4600 series? Only the rears are 5100s iirc. Members have had issues with the bilsteins and I haven't seen them in an off-road environment on a WK or XK. On other vehicles I've seen then perform quite well.... but for these vehicles the best option, IMO, is the OME for the fronts. The difference in price isn't that drastic considering the work involved to change them and how long they last.

Core XK
09-12-2012, 11:33 AM
For offroading? Yes. The damping characteristics are a huge improvement over stock. For daily driving it boils down to the type of ride quality you like to determine which is "better".

Now that I have the adjustable vavle I will never get any other shocks lol its pretty sweet :)

Matt
11-18-2012, 07:08 AM
I think i'm getting the MX6-R shocks for Christmas this year. Looking forward to having the adjustable valving again :)

Matt
11-25-2012, 07:48 AM
Ok... still undecided. Looks like I may be getting 7100's BUT I just found a few FOX part numbers that look like they'll work as well. One of which is a Resi-shock thats comparable to the 7100's and the other is an adjustable resi-shock! I Emailed FOX looking for confirmation on some of the specs and I have Steel Armadillo checking prices for me. I'd love the adjustable resi shocks from FOX but I have a feeling that Santa may VETO that option lol.

But if Santa does VETO the adjustable shock option, it looks like FOX sells a kit to convert their 2.0 Resi shocks into an adjustable resi-shock with PN 815-00-036 ...

Matt
12-07-2012, 09:18 AM
Update!

JBA sells FOX reservoir shocks (2.0 Pro-Series) for our vehicles. The ones they have listed for a 4" lift are 28" long.... so 1/2" longer than my current shocks. $225 each is also a good price, competitive for similar Bilstein 7100 series.

06JeepXKHEMI
12-07-2012, 09:28 AM
So are these for the SL or what?

Matt
12-07-2012, 09:36 AM
No id run them with my current setup. Though I may need to drop down my driver side brake line bracket a bit.

With the superlift you can get even longer shocks.

valpacer
12-07-2012, 03:50 PM
You will need to check bumpstop length too Matt with those, and definitely check the brake line and wheel speed sensor cable length.

These are the same length as SL shocks but these will be much better!

With my SL i am running 32" shocks which is about the limit without long arms.

Matt
12-07-2012, 04:05 PM
Yup, bump stops already extended. I may go an inch further since my tires still hit my flares. My lines have plenty of room, but I also may lower the brake line bracket just for added peace of mind. My current shocks are 27.5" so those aren't much longer.... it just depends on how they actually measure

07JeepXK
12-08-2012, 06:46 AM
Matt, whats the length of the OME rear shocks??? I wouldnt mind a set of the Fox 2.0 someday. It seems my rear OME sort of limit travel.

Matt
12-08-2012, 06:56 AM
According to the OME catalog, the Nitrocharger shocks are 25.9" extended and 14.72" compressed.

Here's the JBA FOX 2.0 Resi shock i'd run:
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Fox_Remote_Reservoir_Shocks-812.aspx

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 07:10 AM
So these are obivously better than the OME one's, but for $500 for the pair is it worth it?!?! Any changes in lift?

Matt
12-08-2012, 07:16 AM
Honestly.... the reservoir isnt necessary for us unless you want to add on the adjustable control.

So unless you want the resi-bling, you can get the non resi option for cheaper and have all the benefits of a performance FOX shock.

Neither these or the OME shocks provide lift. Anything you get from the gas charge is minimal.

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 07:18 AM
Where is the option for non resi?

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 07:18 AM
Got it, nevermind!

cabledog25
12-08-2012, 07:19 AM
the non resi option
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Fox_Emulsion_Shocks_4_0__lift-810.aspx

Matt
12-08-2012, 07:20 AM
Here's the non-resi version:
jeepinbyal.com/prod-Fox_Emulsion_Shocks_4_0__lift-809.aspx

$170 each vs $225 each... so $110 cheaper for the set.

Edit... you guys are quick today!

cabledog25
12-08-2012, 07:22 AM
haha yeah. how good are the fox shocks? thinking about getting some for mine as well.

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 07:29 AM
This is something I am now considering, cant justify SL right now so if I can get improved performance for a decent price, which $350 isnt bad, Ill probably do these soon, along with adjustable track bar and Matt's spacers

Matt
12-08-2012, 07:33 AM
haha yeah. how good are the fox shocks? thinking about getting some for mine as well.

When it comes to build quality and performance... they're second to none.

They're borderline overkill (resi's are definitely overkill) and would likely outlast the vehicle itself lol (based on the type of driving/offroading we do).

cabledog25
12-08-2012, 07:37 AM
thanks, ill probably end up getting some

Matt
12-08-2012, 07:41 AM
If one of you guys get the JBA shocks before me, make sure you measure them fully extended and compressed and take necessary precautions as mentioned earlier. I presume that they measure 28.13 based on similar FOX specs for 11" travel 2.0 shocks; so check brake lines, sensor wires, etc at this extension length. Also if they're 17" compressed you'll want to make sure your bump stops are extended 2"... if they're 18" compressed you may want to up that to 3".

Ideally i'd like to be the first one so i can figure all this out. But you guys sound like you'll beat me to the punch this time!

cabledog25
12-08-2012, 07:44 AM
well you know my situtation and if i get them they wont go on till after mid march. so you got a little bit of time LOL

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 07:47 AM
Im in no rush Matt, please by all means guide us! hahahaha

Matt
12-08-2012, 08:07 AM
Adam can help you!

07JeepXK
12-08-2012, 08:27 AM
Haha we still need to install Andrews rear lift spacers

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 08:39 AM
Yea Ive been slacking! Good news though Adam I finally got my orbital buffer from Fla!!! Just need a garage to use it if I come up there

07JeepXK
12-08-2012, 09:26 AM
I have access to a garage

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 09:36 AM
Nice we will have to figure something out Im getting my MTRs sometime in the next week or two. I was going to have them put the spacers and rear track bar on but if we could work something out Id rather have you do it!

jjt250
12-08-2012, 10:54 AM
What size MTRs are you going with?

07JeepXK
12-08-2012, 11:16 AM
Yeah I wouldn't pay someone to install the track bar and spacers. They would probably charge you something crazy. Free is always better.

I think he's going with the 265/70 MTR's. Not sure if he want to make 285/70s fit like I did

06JeepXKHEMI
12-08-2012, 12:05 PM
Yes Im going 265/70 as I dont want to do what is necessary to get 285/70s in like removing rear HVAC and hacking everything to pieces

Matt
12-08-2012, 04:30 PM
I've already used up my "Christmas gift" for this year so i'll probably be looking at a set of shocks around birthday time (March). So if one of you guys beat me to the punch, no big deal :cool:

Matt
02-21-2013, 09:08 AM
A few updates:

1) I updated the excel file downloadable in the first post with A LOT more shock options. Both Bilstein and FOX.
2) Added Andrews shock thread link to first post. He ordered the 2.0 Emulsions from JBA and should be installed this weekend!
3) I'll be ordering the 2.0 Resi's as soon as I figure out what valving I want to order. Omelet has 30/60, i'm waiting to hear back from trialbyfire to see what he went with, and I have a call into FOX.

Can't wait :cool:

Matt
02-22-2013, 02:40 PM
OK it's official... 11" travel FOX 2.0 Emulsion Remote Reservoir shocks w/ CD adjuster are on order!

Omelet and Trialbyfire have 30/60 valving
Andrew has 30/90 valving (JBA spec)
I'm getting 60/80 valving per FOX tech support

I'm slightly worried that mine are going to be a bit stiff... but we'll see! I did tell FOX that I will eventually have a rear steel bumper with fullsize spare so that might have played a role, on top of the OME HD spring rates I provided.

stites-xk
02-22-2013, 04:38 PM
Sweet deal man!

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07JeepXK
02-23-2013, 04:30 AM
What was the cost of the fox resi's??

Matt
02-23-2013, 05:59 AM
The shocks were $205 each + $105 each for the CD adjuster add on, free shipping. So more money than i'd like to sum up to one number, but less than my state tax return so I'm going to pretend they were free and the state only owed me $150 lol.

07JeepXK
02-23-2013, 06:11 AM
Nice. That's a lot of money just for rear shocks though...

Matt
02-23-2013, 06:27 AM
I completely agree. I've wanted a set of resi shocks for over 10 years and have a small window to get them now with tax $$, before furlough and before the 3rd baby arrives. So it was now or never lol.

With that said, these shocks can still be used if/when I get the superlift, and also on any other vehicle I get in the future. They're completely rebuildable and serviceable and not specific to the XK.

Matt
02-26-2013, 07:41 PM
Quick update.

I contacted FOX again because I was a bit worried seeing everyone running 30% compression. They got back to me and said the lowest they'd recommend for my vehicle weight/specs is 40, so they're going to do 40/80 and if I think it's too soft I can ship them back for a 60/80 re-valve and just pay for shipping.

Matt
04-12-2013, 04:29 AM
Just got the tracking #. Shocks will be here next Tuesday!

Matt
04-16-2013, 02:39 PM
FINALLY!!!! Too bad i have to leave in an hour to study for an exam tomorrow... and tomorrow night im riding... so they won't go on until Thursday.

Measure just over 28" eye-to-eye

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130416171321_zps962c1611-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130416171705_zps0b732da2-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130416171718_zpseddc5278-1.jpg

stites-xk
04-16-2013, 02:47 PM
Nice!

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pjmjr508
04-16-2013, 04:22 PM
Nice

lekmedm
04-16-2013, 07:44 PM
Boy, it's gonna take a lotta napkins to mop up your drool...! :p

1USMC
04-16-2013, 09:17 PM
Nice!


Nice

>>>>>>> Ditto <<<<<<<<

Matt
04-17-2013, 04:36 AM
Lol "drool"...... yeah thats what that is.... definitely drool and not anything else :shiftyeyes:

pjmjr508
04-17-2013, 12:22 PM
Lol "drool"...... yeah thats what that is.... definitely drool and not anything else :shiftyeyes:


WOW lol

Matt
04-22-2013, 05:25 PM
Ok guys, got some miles on them and here's my initial comparison. Note i've been riding on some Bilstein 5125s for the past few months and haven't liked them at all. Ride quality is relative, so i'll compare my likes/dislikes to the 5125s so others have a reference point. Note that the valving specs are not in the same units and we don't have info for how convert.

5125 specs: 33-185555 = 255/70 valving
Fox 2.0 specs: 40/80 valving (%) with CD adjuster set to 1 (softest setting)

Rebound:
This has been my biggest complaint with the 5125 and Fox tech support hit it perfectly with their 80% rebound valving. The rebound on the Bilsteins was lacking and the rear of the XK would overshoot on bumps. Slow bumps would feel like the rear was taking off like a rocket ship and faster bumps felt like someone was pushing upwards with a jackhammer. In the end I think the OME HD springs were just overpowering the rebound damping.

The rebound of the Fox's is spot on. On slow bumps its doesn't overshoot, and fast bumps the vehicle stays much more steady.

Compression:
[Keeping in mind that I have the CD adjuster on the softest setting] Currently the compression damping is a bit on the soft side. Good/Comfy for daily driving, but if I'm going to keep the compression this soft I'll want to reinstall my rear sway bar. I'm going to leave it like this for a week and then crank up the CD adjuster to its firmest setting. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it makes a big difference, otherwise I'll have to eat my foot and consent that I made a mistake from straying from Fox's 60% recommendation. I got nervous when I saw JBA's coming with 30% compression settings....

I'm not sure how the CD adjuster affects the compression for non-adjustable shocks. In other words, im not sure which setting is "nominal" and would make the 40/80 valved adjustable shock feel like a standard 2.0 shock valved to 40/80; i'm guessing it'll be mid range though.

So my personal recommendation right now, if someone was ordering non-adjustable 2.0 shocks for a OME HD lifted Hemi XK with a bunch of skids; I'd steer towards the 60/80 for wheeling in rocks. That may change as I start playing around with the CD adjuster though.

Matt
05-02-2013, 04:49 PM
Had some good playing around with these shocks over the past week or so. Last weekend I had to put my friends boat in the water as well has his cousins. The smaller of the two boats is around 7500 lbs (total w/trailer) and the larger one is right around 8000 lbs. Although both were extremely short drives, I cranked the shocks up to their max setting. It's significantly stiffer so im pleased with that. They did fine towing the boats too but I left them at the setting for the remainder of the day. The roads between our houses are horrible and let me tell ya, they were too stiff IMO for daily driving on that setting.

I then reduced them to the #5 (out of 8) setting for Sunday when I had to drive across NJ to help my buddy move. MUCH better! Still a bit on the stiff side, but I liked it.

I've since settled on the #4 setting which I think is perfect for my butt-preference. I still may end up putting my rear sway bar back on, but its nowhere near as soft or rolls as much on turns as it did with the #1 setting.

End result... VERY HAPPY :)
Can't wait to get them offroad. As long as they perform well there, i can rest easy with my 40/80 valving decision and not have foot in mouth syndrome.

jjt250
05-02-2013, 05:51 PM
Great information...are you running without a sway bar in the front and rear? How is the sway?

Matt
05-02-2013, 06:00 PM
Front still on. Took the rear off when I destroyed the links offroad. With the OME HD springs and the right shocks, the sways not bad at all. With my monroe load levelers there was practically not change in sway, with the 5125s it was minimal, and with the FOX shocks its as reported (too much at the 1 setting, but good at 5+).

The front bars take the majority of the load. Though I've been thinking of putting the back one on again regardless because I think taking the rear off transfers stress to the front.

jjt250
05-02-2013, 06:05 PM
I kind of want to take mine off just to see if the right is better but never have. Could I disconnect the links and just hang the sway bar up temporarily? Would taking the rear sway bar of cause too much understeer in an emergency and vise versa for the front with oversteer?

Matt
05-02-2013, 06:18 PM
I kind of want to take mine off just to see if the right is better but never have. Could I disconnect the links and just hang the sway bar up temporarily? Would taking the rear sway bar of cause too much understeer in an emergency and vise versa for the front with oversteer?

That's going to vary greatly based on springs, ride height, vehicle weight, shocks setup, track width, etc.

I was hesitant taking my rear off.... and only did because I had no choice while wheeling. I've taken the rear off other vehicles before and the sway was bad enough to where I didn't feel safe taking an off-ramp over 40 mph. BUT, with my XK the way it is setup, I didn't notice a difference and have given it a bit of extra throttle on sharp turns just to test the limits.

Moral is- it all depends on what setup you're running. Having the sway bars on is ALWAYS better than having them off. But with the right setup, the difference of taking the rear off may be minimal. It only takes 5 minutes to disconnect the rear and give it a shot.

stites-xk
05-02-2013, 07:07 PM
I have about 6" of lift in the rear and have been disconnected for about a month and no major difference I just go slower when turning!

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jjt250
05-04-2013, 12:59 PM
Good info guys, thanks. I'm going to try this next weekend but will most likely just throw it back on.

06JeepXKHEMI
06-25-2013, 02:21 PM
Removed the rear sway bar and got some flex shots..
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/06/ude8yrad-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/06/vynymevy-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/06/pe2e9aje-1.jpg

Big difference from having the sway bar on and ride isn't to different.. Now I really want to go wheeling and see what these rear shocks are like...


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Matt
06-25-2013, 02:43 PM
You probably have another inch or two of travel left there... not even working those shocks in that pic! :cool:

I'm looking at bringing my son to RC at the end of July. It'll probably be a easy going wheeling day for me depending on how he's doing. And pretty sure Mark wants to test out his new superlift :)

06JeepXKHEMI
06-25-2013, 05:03 PM
Now I'm having a lot harder time keeping it for sale or at least wheeling her one last time. But I don't think it's a good idea if I'm keeping it for sale and I'll be putting the sway bar back on before sale goes, just couldn't stand the noise the end links were making and wanted to see how these shocks flexed...

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lekmedm
06-25-2013, 06:42 PM
I'm looking at bringing my son to RC at the end of July. It'll probably be a easy going wheeling day for me depending on how he's doing. And pretty sure Mark wants to test out his new superlift :)

Yep.... :cool:

Matt
11-22-2013, 06:57 PM
Just a quick update... I've had these offroad a few times now and am extremely happy. I think the valving is perfect; run them on setting 3 or 4 for on-road daily driving and crank them up to 8 offroad.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/11/20131026105659_zps81950603-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/11/20131026105532_zps553de62c-1.jpg

JustinS
12-09-2013, 08:20 PM
Has anyone used the 33-104652 Bilsteins 5125's?

I think I'm going to order them based on the specs in Matt's spreadsheet. Wish I could swing FOX shocks but it is definitely not in the cards this year or next :(

Matt
12-09-2013, 08:27 PM
I don't recall anyone running them yet. But all things considered, and the price, I think they're a great option.

And not to mention you are part of this [somewhat] crazy community.... being the first at trying a shock shouldn't scare ya :cool: