View Full Version : 1/2" Spacers for rear suspension.
I'm going to be ordering some material/tools to make 1/2" thick upper & lower spacers for the rear suspension. My plan is to run ones of each for 1" height increase when I take off my load levellers. ... but know a few guys here are interested in running the 1/2" lower spacers to get rid if some rear sag that's common after installing lifts.
So trying to gauge how much material to buy. Who all would want a set of 1/2" spacers? Figure they'll be $30 shipped for a set.
NOTE: This is not a for-sale thread. I'm making these for myself regardless and will post pics. Just trying to see who else does/might want a set to determine how much material to buy AND and type of tooling I should get. For example if no one wants them, ill make mine a bit more "crude" since they'll be hidden anyways and ill only spend the time making them once. But if there's 3+ more people that want a set, them I'm going to spend the money on the proper hole saws and/or adapters for my friends lathe/mill so it doesn't take me over an hour to make each set lol.
06JeepXKHEMI
08-17-2012, 07:17 AM
Id want a set for the rear to get a small amount of lift to level it out, are you suggesting the 1/2" spacer?
Yeah, I don't see a reason really to go less than 1/2". A lot of people go with the load leveller shocks to get .75-1.25 more height out of the rear.
Measure your rear fenders to see the difference. Each vehicle is a bit different
07JeepXK
08-17-2012, 08:29 AM
You already know I need a 1/2 inch spacer! Mark me down..
Lol of course man. I figured you and Andrew were in based on our chatting sessions. 3 more people interested would bump my order up to the next sheet size.
stites-xk
08-17-2012, 09:38 AM
I'll take a set if you don't mind!
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Cool. I'll probably make these sometime late next week.
NoMatter
08-17-2012, 11:43 AM
For sure, put me down for a set!
stites-xk
08-17-2012, 01:17 PM
Cool. I'll probably make these sometime late next week.
Cool man if you need some extra $ for shipping since im in Colorado let me know.
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Thanks man. I should be good.... Between material, packaging and shipping im expecting ~$25 a set. So I left myself a $5 buffer. Best case for me, I get a 6 pack for each set :cool:
stites-xk
08-17-2012, 04:29 PM
Cool man! Plus a six pack is always good to have around.
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Ok i started making some spacers.... method seems to work alright. Just one issue that I wanted to run by you guys.
I made an idiot mistake and ordered a 5" hole saw to make my 5" diameter spacer. WELL, a 5" hole saw makes a 5" hole, and the piece that gets cut out of that hole isn't quite 5".... closer to 4.75".
Functionally this really isn't a big issue (i'll run the ones I already made on my rig regardless) because they cover the full spring area. But wanted to know what you guys thought. If this isn't Kosher, i'll have to get another $40 saw.
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120820192434-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120820192511-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120820192528-1.jpg
06JeepXKHEMI
08-20-2012, 05:02 PM
Id honestly say if you think it will work then Im fine with it, doesnt look far off from the isolator..
The engineer in me knows it will work (thats while Ill use the spacers I already made on my vehicle so its not wasted material). The OCD perfectionist in me already has a 5.25" hole-saw in my mcmaster shopping cart. I kind of know what needs to be done and am basically thinking (typing) out loud (if that makes any sense)
pjmjr508
08-20-2012, 05:14 PM
I would love a set if it isn't to late
I bought enough material for 8 Sets... but can always order more.
1) 2) Matt (2 sets for 1")
3) Corey-XK
4) 06JeepXKHEMI
5) 07JeepXK
6) stites-xk
7) pjmjr508
8) NoMatter
Did i miss anyone?
07JeepXK
08-20-2012, 05:43 PM
Can't wait! Is the spacer a hard plastic or a rubber material like the isolators
It's high strength impact resistant UHMW Polyethylene.
FYI; 5.25" hole saw will be here Wednesday.
07JeepXK
08-20-2012, 06:00 PM
Do you take PayPal??
06JeepXKHEMI
08-20-2012, 06:15 PM
^X2 on PayPal
Do you take PayPal??
Yessir.
After I install a set to make sure everything good I'll let you guys know. I may have to chamfer the ID so they sit flush on the lower spring perch (which will require a trip down the street to my buddy's lathe)
07JeepXK
08-20-2012, 06:20 PM
Sounds good
paroxysym
08-21-2012, 05:15 AM
matt, if you make a set of 1/2" spacers for the rear i will def take a set!
That makes 9 sets.... ill probably order another sheet of material next week.
1) 2) Matt (2 sets for 1inch)
3) Corey-XK
4) 06JeepXKHEMI
5) 07JeepXK
6) stites-xk
7) pjmjr508
8) NoMatter
9) paroxysm
(Jon/Sal/adam.... not sure if this thread should stay here or be moved to the for-sale section?)
Core XK
08-21-2012, 05:46 AM
After the lift and tires my dog hesitates jumping in the back....now we'll see after these spacers/shocks Saturday lol
Static
08-22-2012, 02:55 PM
Are the spacers going to be the same top and bottom? I was thinking of going with a 1.5" spacer personally, but may be interested in this.
Whats the reason to go with spacers on both top and bottom rather then one spacer on one end?
The spacers will probably be the same exact design for top/bottom. I'll verify dimensions when I have Corey's apart this Saturday. Reason for going 1/2 top and 1/2 bottom is to ensure the spring is always captured and to facilitate installation. If I did 1" top, it would be a PITA to get the driver side spring back in. If I did 1" bottom, it would reduce the amount of remaining material that centers the spring/isolater.
Static
08-22-2012, 03:34 PM
Are the problems you are talking about issues with the current budget boost market?
No because they are either bolted in place (usually the uppers) or have their own self/centering features that center the spring isolaters.
The 5.25" hole-saw came in today and is the perfect diameter. The spacers are the same OD as the isolaters now. After work tomorrow I may take out my passenger side spring to see what type of ID & chamfer will work best.
07JeepXK
08-22-2012, 06:01 PM
Awesome. I need these sooon!
I'm planning on having 6 sets ready to ship out Monday.
07JeepXK
08-22-2012, 06:06 PM
Cool. Hope one of those sets are mine. I needed these like yesterday. Lol
Of course man. lol you asked me for a set before I even decided to make them!
07JeepXK
08-22-2012, 06:20 PM
Thanks! Whats the total cost that needs to be sent to you. Might as well transfer it from my bank to paypal now so its ready when you are
07JeepXK
08-22-2012, 06:27 PM
$30
Does that include shipping?
stites-xk
08-22-2012, 07:06 PM
Just let me know and I'll pm you!
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Since I didn't want Cory being able to brag he was the first to have these installed... I put a set on my XK today! Threw the steps into a "how to" for reference:
http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?2047-How-To-1-2-quot-Rear-Spacer-Install
I still have the load levelers on. Goal is to eventually get some resi-shocks and then put another set of spacers in. Looks good like this though. Rear's a tad higher then desired, but it'll drop a bit when I take the MLLs off and put on another spacer.
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824191750-1.jpg
Here's what they look like:
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824160437-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824160629-1.jpg
A shot installed with the suspension jacked up to fully compress the spring (as must as it could go anyways)
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824161916-1.jpg
..... And Corey's set ready to go on tomorrow:
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824163605-1.jpg
Core XK
08-24-2012, 04:59 PM
Damnit!
07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 05:39 PM
Does the spacer sit tight around the spring perch? I ask because the inner hole looks kind of large. Also it looks like we might need some longer bump stop spacers now. If the spring is fully compressed and its not hitting the bump stop then ill rip my flares right off...
Does the spacer sit tight around the spring perch? I ask because the inner hole looks kind of large. Also it looks like we might need some longer bump stop spacers now. If the spring is fully compressed and its not hitting the bump stop then ill rip my flares right off...
It sits at the edge of the radius on the lower spring perch. For it to move one side would have to ride up the radius (which can't happen with the weight on it).
You don't need longer bump stops. Adding the spacer doesn't negate the relationship between axle and body that you have now... in other words its impossible that adding this spacer in would result in more upwards travel of your suspension. The reason my bump stop isnt hitting is because I was in my driveway so the suspension cant fully flex. If my front was up on an incline so more weight was back there, the bump stop would hit like normal.
The lower perch has a significant radius to it:
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824154341-1.jpg
07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 05:52 PM
That makes sense. I'm still having slight rubbing full flex though with the 3'3's. I wish they made those pucks we used for the bump stop spacers in a 2.25 inch tall. That would stop my rubbing completely.
I just snapped this pic to show how the size of the spacer is the same size as the base of the isolator (minus the radius). Some of the other pics make the hole look much bigger due to the taper of the "tube" section of the isolator.
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/20120824205021-1.jpg
07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 05:58 PM
That that I'm picky, or even care because I know this will work perfect, but would it have hurt to make the outer diameter a little larger?
It wouldn't have hurt at all.... except that i was pushing my hand drill to its limits with a 5.25" hole saw lol. I could only cut 3-4 out at a time before burning the battery up. It also wouldn't really "help" anything either. They extend beyond where the spring sits.
Ok guys, just finished installing Corey's set. I'll have 4 more sets done tomorrow that I can ship out Monday.
Right now I have Adam and Andrew lined up, so there's two more sets up for grabs. They'll be sent based on order of PM's.
It only takes 2 days to get more material... so if everyone on that list PM's me, I'll just have to send the other sets later in the week after I get more material in.
07JeepXK
08-25-2012, 06:21 PM
Money should be in paypal account by monday! I'll just need your info to send you the money
1) Matt (Installed)
2) Corey-XK (Installed)
3) 06JeepXKHEMI (Shipped)
4) 07JeepXK (Installed)
5) stites-xk (Awaiting shipment)
6) pjmjr508
7) NoMatter
8) paroxysm
OK I have 1 more set of spacers left and 3 guys on the list that were interested.
Here's the deal, these spacers were a bit more challenging to make than I expected... in the sense that they take quite some time with a surface prep disc to clean up after they're cut out.
If there's continued interest I'm thinking of selling them for $45 shipped; instead of a 6-pack of regular beer that'll get me a case of decent beer :cool:
07JeepXK
09-03-2012, 06:21 AM
For those of you that were interested in these spacer, they are definitely worth the money. I just installed mine last night and I'm very happy with the results and quality of the spacers. No one else makes anything like this for the rear so get some while you can!
Thanks Adam! https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/07/drinks-1.gif
pjmjr508
09-05-2012, 04:28 PM
yes I would like a set & willing to pay the 45 for them
Well that accounts for all the spacers made so far. There was some material scrapped due to the learning curve and hole saw sizes.... so I didn't get as much out of the sheet as I expected to.
1) Matt (Installed)
2) Corey-XK (Installed)
3) 06JeepXKHEMI (Received, waiting for install)
4) 07JeepXK (Installed)
5) stites-xk (Awaiting shipment)
6) pjmjr508 (shipped)
Ill have to order more material if anyone else wants a set.
Trying to get a handle on who all has recently asked for spacers....
Right now I think I have promised sets to:
paroxysym
thance
pjmjr508
scottso699
cabledog25
asked:
peteyturbo
Anyone missing? I think there was another NJ member that asked for a set but i couldn't find the PM or post...
I have enough material for 4 sets, and I need a set so I'll probably have to order another sheet. Might try to make some this Sunday on my friends lathe/mill/drill. If that works out (makes them easier to make) then i'll order another sheet.
cabledog25
02-15-2013, 07:47 AM
If you have enough left over ill take a set as well
If you have enough left over ill take a set as well
Crap dude how'd i forget you.... added you to the "promised" list
cabledog25
02-15-2013, 07:52 AM
haha its okay man, its no big rush on mine
07JeepXK
02-15-2013, 09:32 AM
A guy on FB was just asking about rear spacers
A guy on FB was just asking about rear spacers
Id like to keep it to forum members whom ive built some sort of friendship with. I dont really make anything off these things so I consider it helping out some friends.
paroxysym
02-15-2013, 03:58 PM
Id like to keep it to forum members whom ive built some sort of friendship with. I dont really make anything off these things so I consider it helping out some friends.
It's like a TUJ exclusive
07JeepXK
02-16-2013, 06:19 AM
I think he is a member, just unaware that you make/sell them. I could be wrong though.
Ah. Well if he's an active member here i'm sure he'll run across the thread. From the list at the bottom it looks like most of the names I recognize have seen this thread though.
I had someone PM me a month or so ago asking for a set of spacers, but they had 1 post and looks like they signed up only to buy something that another member had posted in the FS section. lol that's not exactly the type of "friendship" im talking about... if I know you well enough to bust your balls or buy you a beer, then I'll happily take some of my limited free time to cut you a set of spacers. Everyone else can wait until S.A. is mass producing them and selling them in their store :)
jjt250
02-16-2013, 08:50 AM
Ah. Well if he's an active member here i'm sure he'll run across the thread. From the list at the bottom it looks like most of the names I recognize have seen this thread though.
I had someone PM me a month or so ago asking for a set of spacers, but they had 1 post and looks like they signed up only to buy something that another member had posted in the FS section. lol that's not exactly the type of "friendship" im talking about... if I know you well enough to bust your balls or buy you a beer, then I'll happily take some of my limited free time to cut you a set of spacers. Everyone else can wait until S.A. is mass producing them and selling them in their store :)
Haha I hope this isn't me you're referring to! I'm actually on here daily, I just don't post much. We need some more CRD owners!
Haha I hope this isn't me you're referring to! I'm actually on here daily, I just don't post much. We need some more CRD owners!
Na man lol definitely not you. I literally meant one post. :)
Did you ask me for a set? I'll add you to the list. I had a lot of people ask me lately and dont want to miss anyone
jjt250
02-16-2013, 09:52 AM
Na man lol definitely not you. I literally meant one post. :)
Did you ask me for a set? I'll add you to the list. I had a lot of people ask me lately and dont want to miss anyone
Haha well that's good! And no, I don't need a set as I already have a pair from you!
Wasn't sure if you were gonna add a 2nd set like me for 1"
jjt250
02-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Oh would these go on the top of the coil? Honestly, I'm good with the height in the rear (for now). I'm actually looking for a bit more lift in the front now. I've considered taking the rear spacers out to make it more level until I can pick up some XK front coils. Thanks for the offer though!
Yeah I made them to work on both top and bottom for a total of 1"
Ok guys I was able to make 3 sets today with the material I had left. I tried to put these in order from who's asked for them.
I'll definitely need to order another sheet since I still need my own 2nd set. So I'll probably order a sheet big enough for 4 more which should cover the rest of the list. I should be able to make them next weekend if I order the material tomorrow.
1) paroxysym (made)
2) thance (made)
3) pjmjr508 (made)
4) scottso699
5) cabledog25
6) peteyturbo
7) Matt
paroxysym
02-17-2013, 06:24 PM
Sending payment tomorrow AM. Thank you sir
Sounds good. I think the post office is closed tomorrow... if they are I'll get them in the mail during lunch on Tuesday.
Some pics I took while making these today. Using my friends lathe/mill/drill machine was so much easier than my dewalt hand drill lol. I'm pretty sure I fried both my batteries cutting the last few sets out... one of the reasons i wasn't so keen on making more.
Said and done, took a little over 3 hours today for 3 sets. Should take less time next weekend since I had to figure out the cutting speeds and make quite a few adjustments today.
(Note: It looks like 4 sets, but I already cut a set out of this sheet about a month ago for another member)
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130217145508_zps0e0f82ed-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130217152543_zps49de0624-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130217163719_zpsea08e2af-1.jpg
Gotta say, these ones came out pretty nice. Especially the chamfer on the ID.... much cleaner than me grinding it down by hand with a buffer wheel :p
Gonna keep things updated here so I don't lose track. Looks like i need a bigger sheet :cool:
1) paroxysym (made, paid, shipped)
2) thance (made, paid)
3) pjmjr508 (made, paid, shipped)
4) 1USMC (paid- making in 2nd batch)
5) scottso699
6) cabledog25
7) peteyturbo
8) Matt
pjmjr508
02-18-2013, 02:04 AM
Payment sent.
pj and parox- shipped yours out today. Will PM tracking numbers.
Thance ill have yours in the mail tomorrow.
I picked up more material yesterday and will make yours asap 1USMC
paroxysym
02-19-2013, 12:56 PM
good ****. thanks again matt :cool:
1USMC
02-19-2013, 01:03 PM
I picked up more material yesterday and will make yours asap 1USMC
Domo Arigato
pjmjr508
02-19-2013, 02:47 PM
Ty
I installed another set of spacers on my XK today, this time on the top, for a total of 1". For the top spacer I put tape on the top side too which will help keep everything in place when flexing offroad.
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130224141413_zps3feec0b3-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130224141432_zpsafec0a7e-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/20130224142810_zpsd3cc2230-1.jpg
pjmjr508
02-24-2013, 04:02 PM
Just got done installing mine the same way as well. I love the way it looks right now.
Hey PJ how'd you like the new set of spacers? I think they look a lot better now that I made them on my friends machine instead of using my hand drill and buffing wheel lol.
pjmjr508
02-24-2013, 04:44 PM
I think they look great.
cabledog25
03-04-2013, 04:39 PM
Ive recieved my spacers Matt, ill get the installed when i get my OME HD lift installed too
Sounds good man! Looking forward to seeing you finally lift/wheel the XK when you get back in the states!
cabledog25
03-04-2013, 04:49 PM
HAHA well its already got the crap daystar lift, and i cant wait to see it wth the OME HD, its going to be nice, and ill be reunited with it in about 11 or 12 days :)
How far of a drive is Rausch Creek for ya?? :D
cabledog25
03-04-2013, 04:58 PM
way too far
Im taking my only few weeks of leave and going to arkansas, its for my post-deployment/Birthday/Last time ill be home before Germany Leave LOL but im getting a group on JF.com to go to one of the ORV parks out there.
cabledog25
03-04-2013, 05:02 PM
How far of a drive is Rausch Creek for ya?? :D
I had to google it to see the distance, From Augusta Ga its 688 Miles and 10.5 Hrs, almost as far as it is going to Arkansas :/
cabledog25
03-04-2013, 05:09 PM
LOL after Germany Im wanting to either get stationed In Colorado or somewhere out that way. would love go wheel with yall.
pjmjr508
03-05-2013, 04:33 PM
LOL after Germany Im wanting to either get stationed In Colorado or somewhere out that way. would love go wheel with yall.
Get stationed at JBML (FT Lewis) in WA
you will enjoy the wheeling out here.
stites-xk
03-05-2013, 05:24 PM
LOL after Germany Im wanting to either get stationed In Colorado or somewhere out that way. would love go wheel with yall.
If in Colorado let me know!
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