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07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 05:32 PM
I'm heading back to Rausch Creek Off Road Park to wheel Saturday the 27th of October. I'll be arriving Frinday night, camp there and wheel all day Saturday. Depending on how everything goes ill either drive home that night or stay overnight and head home first thing in the morning on Sunday. Who's all in to see me out wheel Matt's XK!!!!!!

Matt
08-24-2012, 05:39 PM
I'm in. Can't wait to find a climb that i walk up and you cant make!

I may end up wheeling Sunday too if my friends decide to come up Saturday night.

07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 05:42 PM
I'm in. Can't wait to find a climb that i walk up and you cant make!

I may end up wheeling Sunday too if my friends decide to come up Saturday night.

Dont forget the new transfer case, rear locker and front ELSD QD II diff are going in next month bwhahahahahaha

Maybe this trip we will see your XK sitting on top of the huge rock!


https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/08/photo09-1.jpg

06JeepXKHEMI
08-24-2012, 05:48 PM
Im in for all this!! Ill even join in on the competition, Ill have full skids by then

Matt
08-24-2012, 06:01 PM
lol ok then maybe i'll find something that Sal can't climb up! :p

Sal-XK
08-24-2012, 06:14 PM
lol ok then maybe i'll find something that Sal can't climb up! :p

Careful bro or you'll find my XK parked ontop of yours declaring its dominance :D

Matt
08-24-2012, 06:17 PM
it's OK... my roof rack can hold it!

Core XK
08-24-2012, 06:23 PM
Count me in with full skids too! (besides front guard)

Matt
08-24-2012, 06:25 PM
Already shaping up to be a great trip

Adam
Andrew
Corey
Matt
Sal (maybe)

07JeepXK
08-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Are the Wranglers guys going to attend again??? It was fun having to tow him up the hill climb that he couldnt make it up. It looks pretty bad on the Wrangler community when a Commander with a broke transfer case made it up, backed half way down then proceeded to pull him up. lol

Sal-XK
08-24-2012, 08:50 PM
Are the Wranglers guys going to attend again??? It was fun having to tow him up the hill climb that he couldnt make it up. It looks pretty bad on the Wrangler community when a Commander with a broke transfer case made it up, backed half way down then proceeded to pull him up. lol

Now that would of made a great video or at least a sweet pic.

Matt
08-25-2012, 04:25 AM
He's going to try and come again. Plan on having gears and rear locker in by then. lol that little 4-banger was working hard!

07JeepXK
08-25-2012, 04:54 AM
Nice. I didn't realize that was a 4 cly. All he needed was a rear locker and he would have made it up

Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 08:06 PM
Well, I have to be in GA the weekend before this event so it's going be tough but I'll do my best.

Matt
08-26-2012, 08:10 PM
Oh man

07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 08:16 PM
If you don't make it, it's going to be me vs Matt and Andrew. Looks like Corey will be drafted into my team. QT II vs QD II.

Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 08:17 PM
Oh man

Ya I know not sure how I'm going to pull this off yet but I'll try to figure something out.

Core XK
08-26-2012, 08:17 PM
If you don't make it, it's going to be me vs Matt and Andrew. Looks like Corey will be drafted into my team. QT II vs QD II.

haha

Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 08:21 PM
I know but the GA weekend family from around the country come in for it so skipping that to save days off to go wheeling the wife might finally get mad at me LOL

Matt
08-27-2012, 03:28 AM
If you don't make it, it's going to be me vs Matt and Andrew. Looks like Corey will be drafted into my team. QT II vs QD II.

Lmao And he'll have skids by then too! ;)

Sal, hope you can make it man but we understand. Granted we're gonna bust your balls, we all know how hard it is to get away for a weekend sometimes. :)

06JeepXKHEMI
08-27-2012, 05:17 AM
Adam you'll be in a category by yourself bro, QTII with rear lockers, 33s and being borderline insane.. Im still in tho!!

Matt
08-27-2012, 05:28 AM
adam you'll be in a category by yourself bro, qtii with rear lockers, 33s and being borderline insane..

truth!!

07JeepXK
08-27-2012, 05:29 AM
Adam you'll be in a category by yourself bro, QTII with rear lockers, 33s and being borderline insane.. Im still in tho!!

Well said!!

stites-xk
08-27-2012, 05:42 AM
If i could make the trip i would be on your team!

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Core XK
08-27-2012, 06:04 AM
Adam you'll be in a category by yourself bro, QTII with rear lockers, 33s and being borderline insane.. Im still in tho!!

lol This is true....with full skids I intend to put QTII to the full test :)

06JeepXKHEMI
08-27-2012, 06:10 AM
lol This is true....with full skids I intend to put QTII to the full test :)

Did you get the ones from Nick yet?!?! Im ordering the belly skid/diff guard this week, are you getting belly skid to

Core XK
08-27-2012, 06:11 AM
Did you get the ones from Nick yet?!?! Im ordering the belly skid/diff guard this week, are you getting belly skid to

Yeah he will be shipping them today. I intend to get the belly and suspension before RC yeah

06JeepXKHEMI
08-27-2012, 06:12 AM
Nice!! Should be a fun trip for us now

Core XK
08-27-2012, 06:18 AM
Nice!! Should be a fun trip for us now

Yeah I think so too! I need to lay off my credit card after all of these skids lol

Matt
08-27-2012, 06:41 AM
Corey don't forget to send me the tracking numbers... ill need to know when MY new skids are coming so I can take my old ones off to put on your Xk. :)

06JeepXKHEMI
08-27-2012, 06:54 AM
Yeah I think so too! I need to lay off my credit card after all of these skids lol

HAHA yea I hear that, Ill be paying off my credit card, well most of it this week, so Ill probably get the diff guard this week and belly skid next paycheck. I also found a great deal on the superchips so that will be installed by Rausch Creek as well, need the extra power for the added fat!!!

Core XK
08-27-2012, 06:55 AM
Corey don't forget to send me the tracking numbers... ill need to know when MY new skids are coming so I can take my old ones off to put on your Xk. :)

LOL have you looked at your rear grab handles lately?

They look nice on my xk, thanks!

Core XK
08-27-2012, 06:57 AM
HAHA yea I hear that, Ill be paying off my credit card, well most of it this week, so Ill probably get the diff guard this week and belly skid next paycheck. I also found a great deal on the superchips so that will be installed by Rausch Creek as well, need the extra power for the added fat!!!

That's good on the superchips! yeah I managed to drag the balance up to 3k so I can't pay it in full anytime soon lol.......only if she knew!

06JeepXKHEMI
08-27-2012, 07:04 AM
Ouch!! Yea I dont have a limit that high thank God!! only at the jewelry store hahaha. Luckily I only owe $600 out of the 1k available which will be paid by the end of the mth, I like to have that available for last minute trips to the 'Burgh!!!

Core XK
08-27-2012, 07:08 AM
Ouch!! Yea I dont have a limit that high thank God!! only at the jewelry store hahaha. Luckily I only owe $600 out of the 1k available which will be paid by the end of the mth, I like to have that available for last minute trips to the 'Burgh!!!

Yeah to be honest I've never had it this high lol....working at a credit union has its percs but I have a 10k credit limit that I DONT NEED. I really need to take a break after the skids and get it down LOL

Good thing about still being in college is I get HUGE tax returns to pay it off (and buy sliders LOL)

Matt
08-27-2012, 07:12 AM
So getting back on topic I hung out with Tim yesterday and he's in for Sunday... but will try to see if he can take off Saturday.

Adam (Saturday)
Andrew (Saturday)
Corey (Saturday)
Matt (Saturday/Sunday)
Tim (Sunday)
Sal (maybe)

Feel free to copy & edit this list for any changes/additions/deletions.

Core XK
08-27-2012, 07:16 AM
So getting back on topic I hung out with Tim yesterday and he's in for Sunday... but will try to see if he can take off Saturday.

Adam (Saturday)
Andrew (Saturday)
Corey (Saturday)
Matt (Saturday/Sunday)
Tim (Sunday)
Sal (maybe)

Feel free to copy & edit this list for any changes/additions/deletions.

Looking like a really good trip so far.

mrnavy2
08-29-2012, 07:02 PM
Matt, how far is the ride? I was thinking if not far and not too expensive I would go. U can out me down as a MAYBE.

mrnavy2
08-29-2012, 07:03 PM
For Saturday. MAYBE

Matt
08-29-2012, 07:20 PM
It's ~3-3.5 hrs from here. I normally drive up the night before so i dont have to wake up stupidly early, then just stay at the hotel there.

Note that even if you dont want to take your XK on the trails, you're more than welcome to ride along!!

Matt
08-29-2012, 07:21 PM
Adam (Saturday)
Andrew (Saturday)
Corey (Saturday)
Matt (Saturday/Sunday)
Tim (Sunday)
Sal (maybe)
Steve (maybe)

Matt
09-26-2012, 02:52 PM
Any updates? Would I be the only one from here going both days?

hoaxci5
09-26-2012, 03:33 PM
If everything works out.. the family and I will be there all weekend, most likely tent camping also. Hardcore mode engaged.

Matt
09-26-2012, 03:54 PM
Sweet!

Saturday:
Adam
Andrew
Corey
Steve (maybe)

Sunday:
Tim [matts friend]

Saturday & Sunday:
Matt
John [matts friend]
Jacob
Sal (maybe)

CmmdrDan
09-29-2012, 04:27 PM
Maybe..more than likely not. I'm poor.. I will be there in spirt!

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 08:20 AM
One of my snow wheeling buddies is in the final stages of his Grand Cherokee build and will be attending RC with us. He mentioned that he has a few things to finish on it but it will be ready. The Grand Cherokee has a 6.0 liter chevy motor under the hood. He is going to tow it to RC with his 2500HD Diesel and just said he can tow my jeep on the trailer there and back also!


https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/10/GC2-1.jpg


https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/10/GC1-1.jpg

06JeepXKHEMI
10-10-2012, 08:24 AM
That thing looks pretty serious!! Not sure Im a fan of the chevy motor but hey that thing is sick!!!

Matt
10-10-2012, 08:36 AM
Lol he might be bored following us!

criket
10-10-2012, 09:11 AM
Build thread PLEASE!!!!!!

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 10:37 AM
That thing looks pretty serious!! Not sure Im a fan of the chevy motor but hey that thing is sick!!!


That 6.0 liter is pushing out some serious HP/TQ! Wait til you hear it!



Lol he might be bored following us!


Well I'm sure he will still have a blast. We can watch him do all the crazy hill climbs. Ill follow him down a few black trails but nothing crazy.

Core XK
10-10-2012, 10:40 AM
That's awesome man, looking forward to seeing that thing in action.

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 11:20 AM
Build thread PLEASE!!!!!!

I'm not sure I can pull together a build thread but can give you a few of the details.

It's a complete custom build using a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ body/frame. Original engine/trans/transfer case and axles/suspension were all ripped out. Under the hood is a Chevy 6.0 Liter out of an 01 chevy 2500 bolted up to a 4l60e transmission and NP231c Transfer Case from a S10 blazer. The transmission and transfer case ware built to withstand the power of the enigne. The transfer case received a slip yoke elimintaor kit and custom rear drive shaft. He decided not to use the 4l80e normally found bolted to the 6.0 liter to save on weight and so he could still use the NP231c transfer case. Up front is a Dana 60 spooled with 5.13 gears and custom lift/suspension with 18" fox coilovers. The rear is a GM 14 bolt open diff with 5.13 gears and leafs assisted by 10" coilovers.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-10-2012, 11:49 AM
So not much custom work is what you are saying, still nice though

Matt
10-10-2012, 12:01 PM
You mean 4L80E. The 1500s had 60s

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 01:17 PM
So not much custom work is what you are saying, still nice though

The entire Jeep is custom work. The only thing stock on it is the frame and the body. He fabbed up the motor mounts for the 6.0 liter engine as well as a custom transmission crossmember for the transmission and transfer case. Converted the rear end to leafs/coilover suspension and rebuilt the GM 14 bolt axle and had a custom rear drive shaft made. The entire front suspension was totally ripped out and built from the ground up around a dana 60 axle (long arm suspension) with a new front drive shaft and custom lenght coilovers. The lift wasnt purchased as a kit that you bolt on like our XK's. This took months and months of building. Just the engine swap alone makes this a custom build.



You mean 4L80E. The 1500s had 60s

Sorry about the mix up. I updated the original post.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-10-2012, 01:38 PM
I was being sacrastic Adam hahaha

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 02:38 PM
I was being sacrastic Adam hahaha

Oh I thought you were being serious. lol I was about to have you define "custom".

07JeepXK
10-10-2012, 05:55 PM
My little brother says he will be there this time with his TJ. He also mentioned that the toyota and wrangler that we were creek wheeling with a few weekends ago were also coming. We will see if it actually happens. He's all talk.


But myself and Pat with the lifted Grand Cherokee will be there for sure.

Matt
10-10-2012, 07:43 PM
Looks like we'll have a big group for Saturday. I know on Sunday it's at least me, tim and another one of my friends... plus hopefully Jacob

hoaxci5
10-11-2012, 04:56 AM
It looks like uhaul will rent me a full trailer with the XK as the tow vehicle. If I don't close on the house, I'm thinking I'll grab the trailer friday morning, head to your place and then come back here and pickup the wife before heading to RC. I'm going to do my best to be there, so right now I even have a contingency plan :p

Is anyone else planning on camping?

07JeepXK
10-11-2012, 08:21 AM
Ill be camping. Looks like ill just have to embrace to suck!

Matt
10-11-2012, 08:30 AM
While I would love to join You guys around a bonfire I wont be able to camp there.

hoaxci5
10-11-2012, 08:48 AM
While I would love to join You guys around a bonfire I wont be able to camp there.

toughen up sally.

Matt
10-11-2012, 09:26 AM
I would if I could dude. :)

06JeepXKHEMI
10-11-2012, 09:31 AM
Ill probably camp in the back of the XK

hoaxci5
10-11-2012, 09:42 AM
I've got a new tent that I need to try out.. along with a new jeep.. should be a fun trip :)

and a stockpile of firewood, so I'll bring some this time...

06JeepXKHEMI
10-11-2012, 09:49 AM
Im looking forward to this trip as well, should be a great time hitting harder trails!! I want to go across the street this time too

07JeepXK
10-11-2012, 10:14 AM
It looks like there is an event going on the 27th -open house featuring guided rides, women's rides and swap meet.

Core XK
10-11-2012, 10:34 AM
I hope the trails are not crowded?...

What is across the street Andrew? lol

07JeepXK
10-11-2012, 11:06 AM
It's impossible for the trails to be crowded! On the other side of the street are a bunch of easy hill climbs and pure mud. Well not sure how much mud since we haven't had much rain

Core XK
10-11-2012, 11:19 AM
It's impossible for the trails to be crowded! On the other side of the street are a bunch of easy hill climbs and pure mud. Well not sure how much mud since we haven't had much rain

Nice, I'd like to check that out too. I am excited to be a tad more relax knowing I am protected but I don't intend to push the XK hard, and I want to avoid trails that smack sliders frequently lol (Considering I have no sliders or even OEM rock guards)

06JeepXKHEMI
10-11-2012, 11:51 AM
Nice, I'd like to check that out too. I am excited to be a tad more relax knowing I am protected but I don't intend to push the XK hard, and I want to avoid trails that smack sliders frequently lol (Considering I have no sliders or even OEM rock guards)

No worries you cant always follow the women's rides if thats not to much for ya!! hahaha

07JeepXK
10-11-2012, 12:46 PM
Nice, I'd like to check that out too. I am excited to be a tad more relax knowing I am protected but I don't intend to push the XK hard, and I want to avoid trails that smack sliders frequently lol (Considering I have no sliders or even OEM rock guards)


This trip will be much like the last one. No worries.

I definitely think two groups will be needed though with the number of vehicles going. A group doing green and some blues and another group doing blues and blacks. If my bother shows up with the guys we usually wheel with they will want to do the blue/blacks im sure so they can split off and go there own way and if anyone want to tag along with them they can.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-11-2012, 01:33 PM
I definitely want to do more challenging trails, not sure about blacks though!! I want to hit that hill climb Matt did for sure

Core XK
10-11-2012, 01:34 PM
No worries you cant always follow the women's rides if thats not to much for ya!! hahaha

Lol f u

I definitely want to try blues but will be careful. Cant afford trail damage

Hopefully you wont have to take 5 sh!ts before we leave

06JeepXKHEMI
10-11-2012, 01:39 PM
Youre telling me!! That BK bfast didnt help

hoaxci5
10-11-2012, 01:54 PM
XJ needs to get stuck in a mudhole with water coming in so I can freak my wife out :p

07JeepXK
10-11-2012, 02:46 PM
XJ needs to get stuck in a mudhole with water coming in so I can freak my wife out :p

Frog hole! I promise you WILL GET STUCK!!!!

Matt
10-13-2012, 01:24 PM
Update, two of my friends bailed for Sunday.

Jacob- are you up for making this a Saturday only trip?

hoaxci5
10-13-2012, 01:57 PM
We were planning for the whole weekend but if no one else will be there Sunday then not a big deal..

Matt
10-13-2012, 02:16 PM
We were planning for the whole weekend but if no one else will be there Sunday then not a big deal..

How about, instead of running around Friday to tow your XJ back.... after wheeling on Saturday you come down to my neck of the woods and then on Sunday we install your track bar bushings and (if needed) more shims and maybe flat tow that bad boy home? (I'll try hooking it up to my XK next weekend if you want, just to see if the + caster it has now helped)

07JeepXK
10-13-2012, 02:38 PM
All the Jeeps coming with me plan on wheeling sat and sun.

Matt
10-13-2012, 03:04 PM
All the Jeeps coming with me plan on wheeling sat and sun.

The jeeps coming with you want to do blacks though. I won't be doing those either day :p

07JeepXK
10-13-2012, 03:09 PM
The jeeps coming with you want to do blacks though. I won't be doing those either day :p

Haha yea. But Jacob might want to with his Cherokee. Some blacks really arent that bad. That blue/black we did was nothing. Didnt even scrape any of my skids.

Matt
10-13-2012, 03:12 PM
That's true. His XJ can handle all the blacks there...

That trail we did was only upgraded to blue/black because of that one rocky section. Normally that was just a blue.

07JeepXK
10-13-2012, 03:35 PM
Yup and that trail was nothing.

hoaxci5
10-13-2012, 07:21 PM
The XJ has no skids though, just rock rails.. So I don't really want to push it on the maiden voyage.

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 06:21 AM
At least your Cherokee has a transfer case. I have to figure out what I'm going to do and I'm running out of time

Matt
10-14-2012, 12:30 PM
That's not sounding promising Adam! At least you'll be on a trailer this time right? So wth, wheel it and if it breaks you get towed out!

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Yea, the intent is to get towed there and back. As long as we can fit both vehicles on the trailed. Its going to be a tight fit. I have been really busy lately and havent had much time to work on the XK. I had drill this weekend and next weekend the XK will be gone getting the doors fixed. So I only have the week days to replace a steering pump, steering rack, transfer case and possibly front diff.

Matt
10-14-2012, 02:38 PM
That body damage can be repaired after the trip... :p

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 03:18 PM
That body damage can be repaired after the trip... :p

I wish it could wait until after trip. The damage sustained to the door also caused damage to the lower hinge. Now the door isn't closing properly and is out of alignment. There is a gap between the upper portion of the door above the window and its not sealing properly. So while driving you can hear the wind coming in and when it rains, the water slower makes it way through the door seals. I tweaked the door pretty good on that trip. Its not really costing me anything to get the door fixed, but it will be at my friends shop all next weekend. I'll probably work on other issues with the XK while its getting fixed and painted.

Matt
10-14-2012, 03:26 PM
For those who don't have "friends" in the business.... that sure makes the $500 price tag for sliders seem worth it!

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 03:46 PM
You got that right. Sal can confirm that the damage to my door would cost crazy $$ to get fixed else where. I got lucky on this one. So I have to get it fixed while I can

Core XK
10-14-2012, 04:12 PM
lol hopefully it all works out and you make it up w/ no issues Adam.

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 04:14 PM
Well I can install a transfer case in 45 min. The problem is getting one. Ill install it there if I have to

Core XK
10-14-2012, 04:46 PM
Adam, I was talking to my fiance about what happen to your door and sliders for x-mas. Keep in mind my fiance hates my jeep LOL but...

She said to me why waste $600 on sliders when we know a body shop guy. At first I had to think but just realized she smashed my bumper on my old XK and it was atleast 500-700 worth of repairs. Her uncle who is a philly cop knows a guy who does CHEAP really good work for him and his family and we ended up getting it fixed for 150. I completely forgot about him so now I feel a bit better about no sliders LOL

She wants me to get the front guard and roof basket instead of the sliders....*sigh*

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 04:57 PM
Adam, I was talking to my fiance about what happen to your door and sliders for x-mas. Keep in mind my fiance hates my jeep LOL but...

She said to me why waste $600 on sliders when we know a body shop guy. At first I had to think but just realized she smashed my bumper on my old XK and it was atleast 500-700 worth of repairs. Her uncle who is a philly cop knows a guy who does CHEAP really good work for him and his family and we ended up getting it fixed for 150. I completely forgot about him so now I feel a bit better about no sliders LOL

She wants me to get the front guard and roof basket instead of the sliders....*sigh*

Honestly, if you don't go crazy and stick to the type of off roading we did last time at Raucsh Creek then sliders really aren't needed. I have been hard core wheeling my XK for well over 4 years now with this being the first major body damage to the XK. I cant even honestly say that the SA Sliders would have prevented the damage. I was in a ravine going up a huge hill that was all rutted up and tree roots protruding out the side of the ravine caught the door. It would have gone right over top of the slider. Now if money isnt a problem then yea get the sliders. They look amazing and will still prevent damage in other situations. Just wouldnt have helped in mine.

Core XK
10-14-2012, 05:08 PM
Yeah I hear what your saying man. I had a lot of fun my first time, and I don't see myself ever putting my XK in black trails tbh. I will see how I like going through blues!

Matt
10-14-2012, 05:27 PM
Without the sliders you'll always be "at risk" of that type of damage. If you're only going wheeling once in your life, then OK there benefit/cost probably isn't there. But if they prevent that damage just ONCE, they've paid for themselves.

I know I also have a lot more fun wheeling with my sliders. I don't have to baby my vehicle as much and they've taken quite a few good hits.

Core XK
10-14-2012, 05:32 PM
Yeah and those reasons are why I more than likely will get sliders over anything else.

Core XK
10-14-2012, 05:33 PM
I will definitely buy yours if you decide on SA sliders :)

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 05:47 PM
Without the sliders you'll always be "at risk" of that type of damage. If you're only going wheeling once in your life, then OK there benefit/cost probably isn't there. But if they prevent that damage just ONCE, they've paid for themselves.

I know I also have a lot more fun wheeling with my sliders. I don't have to baby my vehicle as much and they've taken quite a few good hits.

Yeah but with that being said, your 4xguard sliders don't provide any protection to the doors. A slider like SA is the best way to go

Matt
10-14-2012, 05:49 PM
A slider like SA is the best way to go

I agree. I bought my 4XG before SA existed, otherwise I would have the SA sliders :(

Though my 4xG have saved my rockers on numerous occasions. Lol specifically last trim when Tim failed to mention I was about to drop off a rock (great video btw hahaha)

Core XK
10-14-2012, 07:06 PM
I wonder what shipping is for SA. It is only $33 to ship 4xg

07JeepXK
10-14-2012, 07:25 PM
What is the price of the SA sliders compared to 4xguard?? Even if SA was a little more expensive the SA sliders are the way to go since they provide more protection.

Core XK
10-14-2012, 07:34 PM
What is the price of the SA sliders compared to 4xguard?? Even if SA was a little more expensive the SA sliders are the way to go since they provide more protection.

SA Sliders are $499 bare (No plate or paint) + whatever shipping is

4xG are $582 including shipping to PA (I think their East Coast distributor is in PA)

So depending on shipping for SA it is not a large difference but it depends on how quickly Jon can produce them at the moment. Other then that, unless you do what USMC did with his SA sliders they do not cover everything for a stock look like 4xg.

I don't really mind the covering part since I already removed my stock rockers and modified the looks. I can't make up my mind but I do agree that SA are better as far as capability. Hands down.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-15-2012, 05:50 AM
Appearance wise I prefer the 4xGuard, but when I do purchase it will be SA for sure. I still have to get Matts spacers installed on the rear just havent had much time either. Adam you plan on staying on blues or you going crazy wtih your friends on the blacks? I want to hit more difficult trails then last time since I have skids but as Corey pointed out Im trying to be smart as well!!

07JeepXK
10-15-2012, 06:17 AM
I'm going to let my little brother and the wrangler guys coming with him go there own route. Ill be with you guys and Pat with the red Grand Cherokee. I can't go to crazy either. Transfer case is dunzo!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-15-2012, 06:40 AM
Sucks to hear about Tcase! Im still having tire issues which will get addressed this week as well as an alignment. Hopefully the leak is just at valve stems and I dont need tires or else this trip wont happen!! Either way MT/Rs are going on just a matter of when..

Matt
10-18-2012, 01:27 PM
So looks like this is gonna be a Saturday only trip for me. Scheduling travel back to NC for that following Monday.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-19-2012, 06:15 AM
Do we have an idea of what time we will be wheeling til? Im probably going to have to leave by 2-230 to make it back in time for a party..

Matt
10-19-2012, 06:23 AM
4-5PM.
You can head out whenever though

06JeepXKHEMI
10-19-2012, 06:37 AM
4-5PM.
You can head out whenever though

Yea Ill have to head out earlier, wouldnt be a big deal if the party wasnt at my house!!!

Core XK
10-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Going to be much different for me and you Andrew lol

Our XKs have improved pretty well since last time!

Core XK
10-22-2012, 09:01 AM
I am looking forward to this trip!

Matt
10-22-2012, 09:11 AM
We have quite a group going!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-22-2012, 09:20 AM
Me to, the Jeep is headed to the shop as we speak to get tires addressed as some are leaking. Lets hope for the best, cant swing new tires before Friday!!!

Core XK
10-22-2012, 11:17 AM
Me to, the Jeep is headed to the shop as we speak to get tires addressed as some are leaking. Lets hope for the best, cant swing new tires before Friday!!!

I hope its an easy fix man! hate for you not to come!

And I hope Adam can swing the trip too!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-22-2012, 11:21 AM
You're telling me I just been dumping $$$ to prepare for this trip..

07JeepXK
10-22-2012, 11:32 AM
This trip isn't looking good for me. Having a drive train issue that I'm trying to figure out. It's getting worse and worse everyday. Found a transfer case out of a v8 grand Cherokee with 52,000 but they want $650 for it :0(

Core XK
10-22-2012, 01:29 PM
Damn! :/

06JeepXKHEMI
10-22-2012, 01:35 PM
Well its not looking good, One of the tires was leaking at the bead, not a big deal but the other which i was concerned about is leaking from the corner of sidewall and tread in 2 places. Even if they do something to stop it Im sure running them low is going to cause a problem. Hes gonna see what he can do and see if it will hold air atleast til I can get new ones. Looks like MTRs are coming my way but its going to have to wait til next month. EXTREMELY frustrated considering everything Ive done to get the XK ready for this trip and its not looking good....

07JeepXK
10-22-2012, 02:23 PM
Damn! :/

On the bright side I just bought a steering rack...

06JeepXKHEMI
10-22-2012, 02:49 PM
Looks like 1k out of my pocket before Xmas, atleast you cant say anything about my tires then Adam!

Matt
10-22-2012, 02:53 PM
sigh

Corey dont you bail on me!

Core XK
10-22-2012, 03:07 PM
oh no! I am there!

Sucks you guys won't be joining us :(

06JeepXKHEMI
10-22-2012, 05:14 PM
I wish I werent bailing!! Trust me Ive been talking/thinking about this trip for awhile!! Not to mention the mods Ive done so I could hit some blues/blacks. Just cant take the risk that far away, I guess its for the better though Ill get the MTRs earlier and have those beasts for the winter months. This is just pushing all the other mods, headers cames etc, out further! Getting a great deal on the MTRs, $1000 mounted/balanced and aligned, not bad considering tires alone are $980 on tirerack.com. Ill be ready for January trip!

Matt
10-22-2012, 05:21 PM
We'll make the Jan trip worth it!

Core XK
10-22-2012, 05:29 PM
Depending on when in January I may have some SA sliders by then :) I intend to order them Christmas day (JON!)

Matt
10-22-2012, 06:21 PM
I'm gonna be jealous when you get them!

Core XK
10-23-2012, 06:44 AM
Well we will be putting them on! What should we paint them with? Something easy to touch up...

hoaxci5
10-23-2012, 06:55 AM
So who's left?

Me
Matt
Corey

07JeepXK
10-23-2012, 07:05 AM
Pat with the huge Grand Cherokee will be there. He will be meeting with you guys at RC.

Matt
10-23-2012, 07:24 AM
I have 3-4 other guys meeting me there too.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-23-2012, 07:53 AM
Im going to avoid looking at pics when they are posted, just goin to piss me off more!!!

07JeepXK
10-23-2012, 08:38 AM
Im going to avoid looking at pics when they are posted, just goin to piss me off more!!!

You and me both!!

hoaxci5
10-23-2012, 08:45 AM
I'll be sending you guys PM's.. and facebook tagging pics :p

Matt
10-23-2012, 08:56 AM
And text messages!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-23-2012, 09:55 AM
ive got a pic of my middle finger already on my phone!!!!

cabledog25
10-23-2012, 10:02 AM
ive got a pic of my middle finger already on my phone!!!!

LOL

Core XK
10-23-2012, 10:34 AM
I'll be sending you guys PM's.. and facebook tagging pics :p

hahaha

07JeepXK
10-23-2012, 11:24 AM
If they are pics on green and blue trails then don't waste your time sending them to me.. Bwhahaha

Core XK
10-23-2012, 03:12 PM
If they are pics on green and blue trails then don't waste your time sending them to me.. Bwhahaha

lmao, we have people coming who cannot go on blacks so I don't think we will be doing straight blues/blacks this trip.

hoaxci5
10-26-2012, 06:29 AM
I don't know who it was that brought the grill last time, but I'm stealing that idea...

So I'll have a handful burgers and hot dogs for lunch tomorrow to share around..

Core XK
10-26-2012, 06:32 AM
A kidney stone is having fun in my lower back right now. Ive had them before....which is why im sweating bullets:(

06JeepXKHEMI
10-26-2012, 07:28 AM
A kidney stone is having fun in my lower back right now. Ive had them before....which is why im sweating bullets:(

Damn bro!! Sorry to hear that it will be a rough trip with that, hope you dont miss it either!!!

Core XK
10-26-2012, 08:48 AM
As of right now I am still going but if this pain gets worse it wont be worth it.

hoaxci5
10-26-2012, 09:13 AM
drugs and alcohol.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-26-2012, 09:17 AM
drugs and alcohol.

Some how this with wheeling just doesnt sound like a great idea, but Im in!! hahahaha

Core XK
10-26-2012, 09:47 AM
I only have a dull pain at the moment which is not an issue. Im worried about the stone moving while im on a trail lol if that happens it wont be good......

07JeepXK
10-26-2012, 09:48 AM
That sucks. Hope you feel better

Matt
10-26-2012, 10:03 AM
Damn Corey I hope you feel better!

Core XK
10-26-2012, 10:14 AM
Thanks guys....I really dont want miss this trip. Same as Andrew, all the money I put into the xk was to do blues for this trip!!!

Matt
10-26-2012, 10:17 AM
And I need your passenger seat!

Core XK
10-26-2012, 10:23 AM
Lol why

Matt
10-26-2012, 10:27 AM
My old mans coming so I was throwing one of the guys in yours for the trail

Core XK
10-26-2012, 11:00 AM
aah okay. I am not sure what I am doing. Like I said the last thing I want to do is miss this trip believe me lol but it won't be good if this kidney stone drops and im there!............ugh

stites-xk
10-26-2012, 11:17 AM
Get better bro!

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Core XK
10-26-2012, 11:23 AM
Thanks man

Core XK
10-26-2012, 12:58 PM
Matt, what time will you be at rc 8? 9?

Matt
10-27-2012, 08:15 PM
Hell of a day of wheeling today!!! Great group with a lot of excitement, a lot of damage, an almost rolled XK, and some pictures of the pink skids!

I have like 400 photos to sort through so it'll be a while...

valpacer
10-28-2012, 01:35 AM
Ok ok ok! Waiting!

Pics!!!

:D:D:D



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cabledog25
10-28-2012, 01:53 AM
Cant wait to see the pics.

Core XK
10-28-2012, 06:21 AM
Definitely was a crazy trip!! I smacked on pretty much every skid on trail 22 LOL

cabledog25
10-28-2012, 07:06 AM
LOL well cant wait to see those awesome pink skids! :)

Holaday07 4.7
10-28-2012, 07:19 AM
Waiting....

Matt
10-28-2012, 10:22 AM
Been outside prepping for the storm. Finally sitting back down.

Matt
10-28-2012, 10:50 AM
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10-28-2012, 10:51 AM
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10-28-2012, 10:52 AM
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Matt
10-28-2012, 10:53 AM
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Matt
10-28-2012, 10:54 AM
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hoaxci5
10-28-2012, 11:47 AM
I got more air than Corey in the same spot.

Matt
10-28-2012, 11:58 AM
Coreys picture was taking about 3 feet forward of yours where the passenger rear tire started coming up that ledge.

All the pics are here:

http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/sk1er18/Rausch%20Creek%2010-27-2012/

mrnavy2
10-28-2012, 12:41 PM
Wow some great pictures. Glad u all had a great time.

Ross
10-28-2012, 05:01 PM
I like everyone's DIY snorkels haha

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 06:06 AM
Looks like you guys had a blastm I want more details on the almost roll over and damage!!

Matt
10-29-2012, 06:14 AM
The pictures in post 171 were the spot. I was trying to make it over those rocks but my driver side slider was holding my up and the driver side rear tire was just hanging behind the rock and not even touching the ground (LOVE sliders!). So I tried a line further to the passenger side. It felt good, until I slid down a bit and my passenger front went SKY high (I dont have pics of it, hoping someone took video).

And then the red jeep almost flipped there too. That picture of him very off camber was when he got close to flipping.

The bronco busted a rear driveshaft and had to drive out with front wheel drive. The red jeep blew some "plugs" out of his power steering pump (didnt know he needed to put bolts in there), Jacob got a cut in his radiator... i think that was it...

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 06:32 AM
Thats not to bad I guess, would love some video.. Howd those new tires do?

Matt
10-29-2012, 06:34 AM
The tires did good. I've had the Toyo ATs before so I knew what to expect. Not as much grip as the Duratracs, but they were definitely not the limiting factor that prevented me from doing any obstacles.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 06:50 AM
Good to hear tires held up nice, cant wait to get my MTRs.. Obviously its the lack of lift thats the limiting factor..?

Matt
10-29-2012, 06:58 AM
Yeah, the lack of belly clearance & suspension travel. Remember my front suspension has less than 2 inches of down travel left, so when I was hung up on that rock the front tires just skimmed the dirt a bit. Only tire that had some traction was my right rear but it just spun on a rock.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 06:59 AM
Besides SL, are there any solutions to more down travel?

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:01 AM
Zone offroad has a kit. But i believe its just the BDS lift re-branded which is not something I would install on my XK. There were a lot of issues with that kid and it has a very low hanging front crossmember.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:08 AM
What kills me besides the lift being unavailable, is the cost. SImilar kits for the wranglers are $600-800 but it goes to 1500 for the XK cause no one makes a lift. Wish someone would come out with another solution

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:11 AM
There are no "similar" kits for wranglers.....IFS is the problem. For any platform, a good IFS list runs 1300-1800 depending on "options". What kills me is the SL is on the high end price range for IFS lifts and it only comes with a bigass front spacer instead of an upgraded strut like the other higher priced IFS kits.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:17 AM
I should have said, similar lift size as in 4" lifts.. I guess if you want to play you have to pay, but even then you still cant get the lift!!! A friend of mine is looking at getting a WK and wants my lift, I havent considered selling it to him cause they arent any options. I know I said itd be awhile before Id go SL but if I can sell my lift for $600-650, its only $900 out of pocket to have SL.. Being that its not available I cant even consider this scenario reality..

stites-xk
10-29-2012, 07:21 AM
There are no "similar" kits for wranglers.....IFS is the problem. For any platform, a good IFS list runs 1300-1800 depending on "options". What kills me is the SL is on the high end price range for IFS lifts and it only comes with a bigass front spacer instead of an upgraded strut like the other higher priced IFS kits.

JBA upgrades the strut with coilovers but you think the SL is pricey! They are way over priced!

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06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:23 AM
I believe there are alot of questions with that lift that no one has answers for, I think Sal was the one questioning things about it..

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:24 AM
I knew what you meant about lift size. Just saying that the suspensions are so different that there's no real comparison. A similar sized lift on vehicles with similar suspensions as ours is a lot more than the wrangler lifts. However there are some expensive wrangler lifts as well when you start looking at long arm kits.

Maybe Jon will get some more info from a superlift rep at SEMA?

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:27 AM
JBA upgrades the strut with coilovers but you think the SL is pricey! They are way over priced!

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The coilovers still don't help. You can only get so much down travel out of our stock suspension components. The JBA 4" lift is basically like stacking spacer lifts and throwing on his UCA's. Kiss the steering rack, CV's and lower balljoint and tie-rods goodbye.

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:31 AM
Thats what I was assuming, I knew it was athread at some point and the cost is ridiculous!!!

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:37 AM
Yeah we've had a few threads on this subject over the years. I've yet to see a 4" JBA lifted vehicle in person. I have a feeling though that it's really only a 3" increase in height, like a lot of us are running with the OME+1/4" spacer. From the pics i've seen of it on WK's, it doesn't look as tall as the superlift.

Core XK
10-29-2012, 07:43 AM
Yeah, after this trip I want the SL even more :( or a snorkel :O!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:44 AM
I agree, they just posted pics of a WK with it on their FB page and its doesnt look to much more lift than one with OME

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:45 AM
There's a snorkel for sale on the other forum! :cool:

I refuse to install a snorkel on my XK.... then i'd just be temped to take it in water way too deep! I'm happy keeping my XK on the trails; the deep water stuff just destroys too many parts that I don't feel like fixing anymore :p

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:47 AM
Although we may need a snorkel here shortly!! they are predicting 6-12" of rain in my area

Core XK
10-29-2012, 07:48 AM
Maybe I can snag your OME for a deal when you get SL lol

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 07:50 AM
Maybe, like I said itd have to be available to buy and ship same day.. I wasnt planning on SL for awhile and still not but if it comes available and someone wants my OME for a fair price then Id do it

Core XK
10-29-2012, 07:51 AM
Well yours or Matts since you both want SL lol

I don't need shocks though :P

Matt
10-29-2012, 07:53 AM
When i put on my SL, i'll only be selling the coils unless SL offers an upgraded front strut like they do with their other IFS lifts. No way will I be putting the stock struts back on.

side note.... lol talking about "off topic"!!

stites-xk
10-29-2012, 08:01 AM
When i put on my SL, i'll only be selling the coils unless SL offers an upgraded front strut like they do with their other IFS lifts. No way will I be putting the stock struts back on.

side note.... lol talking about "off topic"!!

Yeah sorry! Lol great pics btw!

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06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 08:29 AM
Well yours or Matts since you both want SL lol

I don't need shocks though :P

I wouldnt break it up, Id only sell as a whole package so I knew it would all go and get the $$ I think to be worth it


When i put on my SL, i'll only be selling the coils unless SL offers an upgraded front strut like they do with their other IFS lifts. No way will I be putting the stock struts back on.

side note.... lol talking about "off topic"!!

I know right, you started it with your talk about limiting factors!!! hahahaha

Matt
10-29-2012, 08:31 AM
Actually i think YOU started it with this:


.. Howd those new tires do?


:p

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 08:38 AM
Yea yea yea honestly though when doesnt our threads go off topic

Matt
10-29-2012, 08:40 AM
True. And its better than Adam yelling at us for "not" posting!

Core XK
10-29-2012, 09:03 AM
Yeah we always go off topic lol

Well I can just buy your coils Matt and look for the struts seperately :)

07JeepXK
10-29-2012, 11:01 AM
True. And its better than Adam yelling at us for "not" posting!

Haha. Good thing RC happened this past weekend or this place would have been a ghost town

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 12:48 PM
Wish I had Adams snorkel at the moment!!

Matt
10-29-2012, 12:52 PM
lol. This things supposed to make landfall directly above my house!

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 12:53 PM
Stay safe man, its headed roght up my direction after landfall

Ross
10-29-2012, 01:58 PM
On 4xguard.com, they are now selling JBA 6"/8" lifts that use the SL cradle drop and include 6"/8" struts/springs with HD UCA's...only $4,000-7000 haha

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 02:21 PM
Thats SFA territory.. hhahhaa

Matt
10-29-2012, 02:27 PM
On 4xguard.com, they are now selling JBA 6"/8" lifts that use the SL cradle drop and include 6"/8" struts/springs with HD UCA's...only $4,000-7000 haha

You forgot the most important part... that DOESNT include the 4" superlift that's required. lol

Edit: Nevermind, the $7300 kit includes the superlift

06JeepXKHEMI
10-29-2012, 03:29 PM
If I get stupid $$$$ I would possibly consider it just cause but thats just absurd..

Core XK
10-29-2012, 03:36 PM
Yeah if Money wasn't an issue i'd do a whole lot to the XK lol....

07JeepXK
10-29-2012, 04:22 PM
You forgot the most important part... that DOESNT include the 4" superlift that's required. lol

Edit: Nevermind, the $7300 kit includes the superlift

Ummm $7300??? lol they wont even sell one kit!! Everyone wanted a snorkel and then when it came out with a price tag of $600 no one wanted it anymore.

I hope someone does waste that much money some day cause im going to laugh at them for not going with a SAS with long arm rear/front

Core XK
11-03-2012, 06:00 PM
I'd like to do the Pine Barrens in NJ? is it? I've heard good things about that place

How is it compared to RC? from what I understand its much more mellow? not as advanced I guess?

Matt
11-03-2012, 06:04 PM
Pine barrons is fun for 20 minutes.

It's a good trip to bring the family out on for a day outdoors. Maybe some geocaching.

Core XK
11-03-2012, 06:12 PM
Pine barrons is fun for 20 minutes.

It's a good trip to bring the family out on for a day outdoors. Maybe some geocaching.

lol Maybe we can plan a family trip one day and do lunch or whatever.

hoaxci5
11-03-2012, 06:55 PM
I'm game at some point..

Matt
11-03-2012, 06:57 PM
Definitely.

Core XK
11-03-2012, 07:04 PM
I wonder if I can bring my dog :) he loves the outdoors! lol

Matt
11-03-2012, 07:13 PM
Of course you can!

Core XK
11-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Good because i dont have kids so my dog will take that spot : p

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