View Full Version : 08 XK Limited will not start.
mrnavy2
08-25-2012, 04:38 PM
Ok, here is my problem. Last weekend did a tune up on a 08 XK Limited. It ran beautiful after replacing the upper plugs. After a few days of driving it and enjoy how she ran, I parked it at home and the next day went out to start it and it would not start.
What I get when I turn on the key: I get a small click. My friend listened to where the click was coming from. It was coming from the back fuse back. We opened up the fuse box and start to check everything. When we heard the click again, it was coming from the group of 3 relays. Everything lights up on the dash. Windows go up and down, Radio and AC still work.
I also checked the battery and it was 12.5 volts. Still good, but it will not start. We also try to jump start it to satisfied ourselves and still nothing.
Anyone had this problem or heard of this kind of problem on a 08 XK.. Thanks for your help. Steve….
07JeepXK
08-25-2012, 05:09 PM
Did you try jumping it off of another vehicle with jumper cables?
NeilSmith
08-25-2012, 05:25 PM
battery. trust me, battery. jump it and see if it will start. lots of talk over the past few years about the batteries. you cant trust the battery testers neither. also could be wire running to starter, if it starts by jumping it then ts the battery.
07JeepXK
08-25-2012, 05:27 PM
Its not the battery! He posted on the other forum. They tried to jump it off his friends truck. Still wont start. Doesnt even turn over at all but all the lights qork, windows go up and down...etc. Im thinking starter..
NeilSmith
08-25-2012, 05:31 PM
then starter or that stupid wire down there. Its not the battery ! HaHaHaHa !!
Steve, put a voltmeter across the battery and see what the voltage drops to when you try starting it. If the voltage drops, its likely the starter. If the voltage doesnt drop, its the wiring and/or relays.
Want me to take a look at it tomorrow AM?
Just an FYI, since you told me it didn't start a few weeks ago but then randomly started working again.... I have a feeling its corrosion on the wiring harness.
DetroitMarauder
08-25-2012, 05:49 PM
I'd say wiring harness too. Mine had the same problem. It didn't start once or twice then started fine a few minutes later until one day it wouldn't start at all. It's a known problem because the mechanic at the dealership walked out to mine, popped the hood, reached in and jiggled the wire, hopped back in and started it to drive it into the shop. He parked it right next to another XK that was there for the same thing.
mrnavy2
08-25-2012, 06:03 PM
@Matt. Use that would be good or even in the afternoon. Up to you. Just let me know what time so I will be home. Thanks brother.
text me your address. i'll swing by in the AM after i get some coffee in me. (~9-10)
mrnavy2
08-25-2012, 06:14 PM
Did u get my text?
si senor. Did you get mine? :p
mrnavy2
08-25-2012, 06:40 PM
Yes Sir.
Sal-XK
08-25-2012, 09:14 PM
Might not be the battery but 12.5 is still low I'm not doing the math but I think that runs about 60-70% I stink at math LOL I would take care of that starter wire even if its not the issue because it will be at some point. Also keep in mind that are batteries seem to show very little sign of going bad and just go bad almost over night.
FrankXK9
08-25-2012, 10:48 PM
i just had this same problem in my 09 xk let it take a charge for 10 mins and it jumped took it to jeep cause after it started up the engine light came on and they said the same thing battery showed no sign of being low but replaced it and works fine now... this literally happened this past week just got my xk back on friday
We'll have it figured out in a few hours.
12.5 is normal for voltage when not running. The key is what the voltage drops to when he tries starting it. A good battery will stay above 10 volts while cranking. If it drops below that its not enough to turn the engine over.
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 05:58 AM
Starter!!
lol i hope its the battery for 2 reasons:
1) its an easy fix
2) you're wrong :p
(fyi lights & windows working does not mean a battery is good. they dont pull the amperage that a starter does and newer vehicles actually have circuitry that prevents the starter from engaging with low battery voltage, so you won't get that slow cranking that's the norm with older vehicles and dead/dying batteries)
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 06:14 AM
I know. Lol I want it to be the starter so it makes your day harder! Haha
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 06:20 AM
Well we will see in a few hours I guess. My batt sits at 12.8 and 13 when it's fully charged when it's at 12.5 I hit the button for % and it's nowhere near 100% not sure if that means anything. If a battery is bad not only will it have to charge a few minuets the car jumping it needs to be big enough as well. Had a rice burner trying to jump a caddy revving it and all kinds of stuff. I said let me try he argued with me man I have a red top if I can't do it you can't. The caddy owner finally let me try cranked over first try. I looked at him and said I have a 160amp alternator and my battery is twice as big as yours the guy was butt hurt LOL
Battery and starter are good it was the wiring harness
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 07:37 AM
Starter wiring harness??
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 08:34 AM
I knew it wasn't the battery! Told you it had something to do with the starter
I knew it wasn't the battery! Told you it had something to do with the starter
Nooo, you said "it is the starter" not "something to do with the starter" :p
It could still have been the battery when you said it wasn't the battery. Lack of being able to jump start it and the lights still working doesn't mean anything on newer vehicles. I believe post #6 and #7 were right on. Proper diagnosis >>> guessing :cool: lol
DetroitMarauder
08-26-2012, 09:17 AM
Nooo, you said "it is the starter" not "something to do with the starter" :p
It could still have been the battery when you said it wasn't the battery. Lack of being able to jump start it and the lights still working doesn't mean anything on newer vehicles. I believe post #6 and #7 were right on. Proper diagnosis >>> guessing :cool: lol
Only post #6 and #7 huh? :p
lol and confirmation from #8!!!
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 10:00 AM
Nooo, you said "it is the starter" not "something to do with the starter" :p
It could still have been the battery when you said it wasn't the battery. Lack of being able to jump start it and the lights still working doesn't mean anything on newer vehicles. I believe post #6 and #7 were right on. Proper diagnosis >>> guessing :cool: lol
lol same difference! What I was trying to say was exactly what the issue was. The starter wasn't working. Everyone kept saying the battery and I said it wasn't the battery. And anyone could say it could have been the battery but guess what. It wasn't.. Haha. Point being the starter still wasn't turning over the engine.
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 10:02 AM
And if you read my posts I never said a "bad" starter. Just said Im thinking it's the starter!
And if you read my posts I never said a "bad" starter. Just said Im thinking it's the starter!
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Core XK
08-26-2012, 10:52 AM
lol..you guys are crazy
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 11:44 AM
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Save that for RC!!
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 12:13 PM
And if you read my posts I never said a "bad" starter. Just said Im thinking it's the starter!
Nope you were wrong like the rest of us. I always say battery first until you say you have completed the steps to rule that out. Click no start test battery then harness then starter in that order simplest first. :p
mrnavy2
08-26-2012, 01:29 PM
Ok all, here goes… My friend Matt came over this morning and some of you may know him.. A very knowable guy also with a XK. He did a few checks on the battery and relays. Seems like everything there was ok.. Then he said, lets jack up the XK and he got under the XK and shook the Starter Wire Harness and BINGO the XK started… Mat is a Life Saver. I have been so down since Thursday trying to figure out what was wrong. Mat came over and in 10, well maybe 15 minutes had it running again.. Then we drove the XK to the jeep dealer, to have them install a New Starter Wiring Harness tomorrow. THANKS TO MAT, I was back on the road. And also Thanks for all you guys and girls for your feedback. Steve….
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 01:51 PM
Nope you were wrong like the rest of us. I always say battery first until you say you have completed the steps to rule that out. Click no start test battery then harness then starter in that order simplest first. :p
Haha how was I wrong!!
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 03:20 PM
Haha how was I wrong!!
Lets take a little journey :D
Its not the battery! He posted on the other forum. They tried to jump it off his friends truck. Still wont start. Doesnt even turn over at all but all the lights qork, windows go up and down...etc. Im thinking starter..
Starter!!
I know. Lol I want it to be the starter so it makes your day harder! Haha
I knew it wasn't the battery! Told you it had something to do with the starter
The wiring harness is not the starter :p The starter is working the battery is working its the harness that's bad :D There for IMO you and I my friend were wrong wrong wrong! :D LOL I crack myself up LOL
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 04:13 PM
Haha no the starter wasn't working because of the starter wiring harness was bad. Never once said the starter was bad and needed to be replaced. Everyone was saying the battery, which I knew wasn't the cause. It was quite obvious the battery was fine but starter wasn't turning over the engine.
mrnavy2
08-26-2012, 04:14 PM
Sal you guys have me laughing my a**off here. I would have bet also the Starter but who would think it would be the HARNESS. I guess Mat would. LOL.
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 04:26 PM
Haha no the starter wasn't working because of the starter wiring harness was bad. Never once said the starter was bad and needed to be replaced. Everyone was saying the battery, which I knew wasn't the cause. It was quite obvious the battery was fine but starter wasn't turning over the engine.
Its not the battery! He posted on the other forum. They tried to jump it off his friends truck. Still wont start. Doesnt even turn over at all but all the lights qork, windows go up and down...etc. Im thinking starter..
Starter!!
I know. Lol I want it to be the starter so it makes your day harder! Haha
I knew it wasn't the battery! Told you it had something to do with the starter
Dude you're a natural politician LMAO just admitt your wrong :rolleyes:
Sal you guys have me laughing my a**off here. I would have bet also the Starter but who would think it would be the HARNESS. I guess Mat would. LOL.
Its all in fun :D
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 04:51 PM
Anyways. I'm just glad he got it fixed and that it was an issue with the starter not turning over the engine!
LMAO... so if it was a fuse or relay Adam would still be right cause it had to do With the starter?
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 04:55 PM
Anyways. I'm just glad he got it fixed and that it was an issue with the starter not turning over the engine!
Hahahahahahhahaha
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 07:14 PM
LMAO... so if it was a fuse or relay Adam would still be right cause it had to do With the starter?
Great minds think alike. So is the OP coming to RC with us??
He's definitely got the itch. I'll see if he'll let me install a 2" lift to get least get some clearance for a few of those rocky sections.
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 07:23 PM
Your a bad influence Matt! Lol jk
bad/good... it's a matter of opinion. lol
.... i feel like a drug dealer and the 2" lift is the gateway drug hahahahaha
Core XK
08-26-2012, 07:38 PM
.... i feel like a drug dealer and the 2" lift is the gateway drug hahahahaha
This is pretty accurate.
"All the cool kids are doing it..."
Core XK
08-26-2012, 07:40 PM
lol
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 07:42 PM
OMG this group is out of control LOL
OMG this group is out of control LOL
YOU started it! :p
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 07:49 PM
YOU started it! :p
Not sure about that but you contributed :D
07JeepXK
08-26-2012, 08:21 PM
Wasn't me.. Lol
Sal-XK
08-26-2012, 08:23 PM
Wasn't me.. Lol
Hahahh you to bud your not hidding on this one LOL
pjmjr508
08-27-2012, 12:57 AM
ok I'm having this issue with my 07. I feel it it the harness as well. Where is it so I can check? on the starter?
Yeah its the harness going to the starter. If your car doesn't start, crawl under there and wiggle the wires around. It'll start if that's your problem (wiggling the wires breaks up the corrosion so contact is made again). I've been thinking of putting new terminals on mine before I have the issue....
pjmjr508
08-27-2012, 11:25 AM
yes mine started a few weeks ago & was just like one a week now its 2x's a week. the battery does amps do not drop & everything on the dash are bright including lights so was thinking it was ele related now I know where I have to look thx.
07JeepXK
08-27-2012, 12:37 PM
X2 on the starter wiring harness. Start there and see if that fixes it.
It DEFINITELY has something to do with the starter.... I guarantee it.
07JeepXK
08-27-2012, 12:51 PM
It DEFINITELY has something to do with the starter.... I guarantee it.
Haha
The_War_Wagon
08-27-2012, 01:02 PM
Not sure about that but you contributed :D
Enablers... :p
mrnavy2
08-27-2012, 04:53 PM
Hey all, I had the Starter Harness replaced today for a total of 140.00 cost for labor n parts. Again thanks for all the feedback. Steve
Sal-XK
08-27-2012, 05:15 PM
It DEFINITELY has something to do with the starter.... I guarantee it.
LMAO
Hey all, I had the Starter Harness replaced today for a total of 140.00 cost for labor n parts. Again thanks for all the feedback. Steve
glad things worked out.
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