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duneslider
12-27-2012, 06:05 PM
I was at the dealer today getting a key programmed and decided to get a set of plugs for my 2010 5.7hemi. Opened the box and the plugs are an ngk nickel plug. Every jeep/Chrysler I have owned has had champions? I thought this was pretty interesting. Part number is splzfr5c11

Hopefully, between now and the end of the year I can get them changed out.

Matt
12-27-2012, 06:12 PM
In 2009 Chrysler superseded the Champions with the NGK's.

Edit: "superseded" is probably the wrong term.... they still supply SPRE14MCC4 for 05-08 5.7L's.

I'd go with the OEM recommended plug for your model year.

Erk469
12-27-2012, 06:23 PM
When I changed my plugs, I went with the OEM plugs, I don't trust putting anything but OEM plugs in it, I have had a friend of mine up here put platinum plugs in his jeep and it literally had detonation about 500 miles later. So stick with OEM. The part number should be on the hood. Just my .02

duneslider
12-27-2012, 06:25 PM
That's interesting, I hadn't heard that. I never had any issue with champions but I have been running nothing but ngk in my motorcycles and atv's longer than I have been driving. It's interesting they made the switch after all these years.

Really, any correctly matched quality plug will work fine. Problem is not all plug manufacturers do their do diligence when specifying a matching plug or ensuring a quality plug.

I am also getting some new tires tomorrow. Putting some terra grapplers on, should look better than the Pirelli street tires the last owner put on.

Erk469
12-27-2012, 06:28 PM
I just like running OEM plugs I mine there are different kinds, NGK, Champion, Autolite and some others....LMAO I think mine are NGK copper but I want use platinum or anything like that.

Matt
12-27-2012, 06:30 PM
Eh im not a fan of the terra grapplers... the cheesy lightning bolts on the sidewalls remind of "hotwheels" :p

Erk469
12-27-2012, 06:35 PM
LMAO....I see alot of them up here..I think it's more for looks than use...I don't like them either..Goodyear Silent Armors would be a better fit

duneslider
12-27-2012, 07:58 PM
Wow, not much nitto love here. From what I have seen they are a pretty decent tire. I know lots who run them. The toyo mt's I ran on my jk were fantastic tires.

Matt
12-27-2012, 08:02 PM
They were an extremely popular tire a few years ago. They started to get a bad rep in the full-size truck world for wearing quick.

I just could never get over the lightning bolts lol.

Check out the new Toyo AT-II's ;)

duneslider
12-27-2012, 08:24 PM
I do like the toyo at 2, looks like a great tire. Problem is with my 18" wheels there are not many options when it comes to tires. Most are special order, such as the toyo and the Goodyear silent armour. From what I have seen the grappler lasts about as long as all the other common AT tires. I really don't expect more than 40-50k out of any off road tire. Although I did get 48k out of my toyo mt. I figure the nitto can't be too far off from the toyo since they are both the same company.

I thought the flames would make it look tougher anyway. It's the family cruiser, I just need it to be better than bald Pirelli scorpions on it now.

Matt
12-27-2012, 08:27 PM
Do you have a lift? what size tires are you looking at? (I have 18s too)

Nitto tends to use a softer compound than the Toyos. ~40k is what i've seen for the TG's whereas i've personally seen Toyo AT's go well above 60k.

duneslider
12-27-2012, 08:33 PM
I do have a lift but without new wheels or spacers I can't go too big. Plus, this is the family wagon and won't see much offroad time other than dirt roads we will pull the trailer on. My jk is the trail rig.

Matt
12-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Check out the 255/70/18 Hankook Dynapro ATM's (they also have 255/60/18 if that's the size you're eyeing up)

I had these on my wifes Liberty. They're a good looking A/T tire and had great traction. Very affordable as well.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?ra=searchTiresBySize.do&pc=10818&counter=3&ar=70&rd=18&sw=false&cs=255

The_War_Wagon
12-28-2012, 08:52 AM
FWIW, I run the NGK's in my '07, and they've performed well for almost 10k miles now.

07JeepXK
12-28-2012, 05:07 PM
I tried the NGK V-power plugs years back and wasn't to fond of them. I have been back to the cheap 1.49 oem champion plugs and my XK is running strong at 125,000 miles

stites-xk
12-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Check out the 255/70/18 Hankook Dynapro ATM's (they also have 255/60/18 if that's the size you're eyeing up)

I had these on my wifes Liberty. They're a good looking A/T tire and had great traction. Very affordable as well.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?ra=searchTiresBySize.do&pc=10818&counter=3&ar=70&rd=18&sw=false&cs=255

That's what i have! I'm very happy with them! Great tires!

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duneslider
01-05-2013, 12:36 PM
Well, I ended up with the apparently uncool terra grapplers. So far I would call them the best all terrain I have had yet. They have performed fantastic on the ice and snow, they are silent, ride nice, and were in stock.

I will let you all know if they end up sucking, I am certain they won't be as bad as the bfg at's I was dumb enough to buy three times.

Matt
01-05-2013, 05:00 PM
Hey man, i'd run the TG's over the BFG's any day of the week!

Where are the pictures??? :cool:

duneslider
01-05-2013, 07:30 PM
I will do some garage poser shots. It's been cold and snowy for weeks.

Matt
01-05-2013, 07:38 PM
Cameras work in the cold.... and we love snow pics! lol

duneslider
01-18-2013, 04:34 PM
Anyone know what the plug gap should be on the 2010 5.7? I can't seem to find it anywhere. It sounds like the 2006-2008 is .043-.045 but I keep seeing mention that the 2009-2010 is different. There also doesn't seem to be a sticker in the engine compartment that shows this info, not sure why that is since every vehicle I have owned had one. Anyone have a 2009-2010 that wants to take a picture of their sticker and pass along what the plug gap should be I would sure appreciate it!

duneslider
01-18-2013, 05:13 PM
Well, I have done more searching and reading. Looks like several sources say .043 for the 2009-2010 models.

Sal-XK
01-18-2013, 05:53 PM
Well, I have done more searching and reading. Looks like several sources say .043 for the 2009-2010 models.

The sticker was there at one point LOL but with the tools we use to gap plugs .43 is close enough even if you need to be at .45 which I'm pretty sure my 07 is gaped at.

duneslider
01-19-2013, 08:16 PM
Changed out the plugs last night. Took a few pictures of the process and I will try to put together a little write up on it. Seems like a lot of people are apprehensive to do this. It takes a while because of the 16 plugs but I still think it was easier than doing plugs and wires on my jk.

My plugs didn't seem very bad at all, I wonder if the previous owner had a service done somewhere in there. I put a couple hours on the highway on it today and didn't notice any difference and the gas mileage still is low. Good thing I didn't buy to be an economy car.