FOX 2.0 Reservoir Mounting

[Matt]

Wanted to get this figured out before my shocks come. Ideally i'd like to mount the reservoirs in the wheel well above the tire, but it looks like the tire will hit when flexing. Maybe if my wheels were 4.5" backspace i'd be OK, but then I couldn't turn my front tires so its a bit of a catch 22.... the 5.7" backspace lets me fit bigger tires, but eats up clearance in the wheel wells for resi mounts.

SO, it looks like I may be able to mount the resi lower down, right on the spring perch. Took some pictures of the area and put an electrical tape roll that measures 2" in that location and stuffed the tire using a floor jack. I get about 1/4" clearance, but thats without the suspension dynamically compressing.

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With the tire stuffed

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^^ It's hard to see in those two pictures because I couldn't get a good shot from underneath, but the sidewall curves back in and there's more clearance than it looks. And if I move the tape upwards, it touches both the fender wall and the tire sidewall so I cant move it up much.

[Matt]

I just ordered these 2.0 Reservoir mounts that are made for the front of Dodge 1500/2500/3500 pickups. I think these will be perfect if I bend the mounting tab in the opposite direction.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/02/Resimounts_zps73012125-1.jpg

My plan is to put those on with a plastic rivet (so it'll break easy), then zip tie some 2" diameter PVC pipe there and take the XK for some offroad flexing so see if there's contact.

I'm also going to extend my bump stops another 1/2" today and install a 2nd set of 1/2" rear coil spacers... both needed regardless of the shocks, but figure they'll help with the clearance issues as well.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Why not mount on the side of the shock itself?

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[Matt]

I like the look when they're mounted remotely as opposed to piggyback. Plus the XK shocks are way too hidden, gotta get that bling factor :cool:

It'll also make it easier to access the CD adjuster.

[Matt]

Had the idea to use my mag-lite case to get an idea of what it'll look like. It's about the same length as the FOX Resi but only 1.3" diameter, so the FOX resi will stick up another 3/4"-1" higher. I think it'll come out pretty good :cool:

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[Matt]

Got my resi mounts in today. These are much thicker than I expected them to be and I wont be bending that tab! I'll probably mount them facing up like a cradle and put a small bolt or two through the upper spring mount as a temp until I weld them in place.

I have an 11" piece of 1.5 PVC (has a 2" OD). So hopefully this Sunday I'll get a chance to put that on with a zip tie, flex the jeep and see if there's clearance.

[criket]

Matt, did you ever get these shocks and get them mounted? I HAVE to get rid of my monoroe load levelver crap and I was looking at some Fox shocks..if you have them on, how do you like them?

[Matt]

My shocks didn't come in yet. :(

I did get my resi mounts and need to test them out yet. Hopefully this Sunday.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Criket I have the non resis and love them.. I got to flex them out but didn't get any shots of it, they are definitely a improvement over the OME rears. The on-road performance is a tad less forgiving over bumps but handling is stiffer which is what I prefer..

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[Matt]

But they can be tuned to your exact liking. Not only can you change compression and rebound valving, you can adjust the charge pressure as well. I believe trialbyfire is running 150psi.

So unlike other shocks where you have to hope they provide the ride you want, you can completely change the ride characteristics of the FOXs to suit your preferences.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

I like how JBA has them set up, cant wait to see what they are like on the trails, need to get my brake lines done this weekend..

[criket]

But they can be tuned to your exact liking. Not only can you change compression and rebound valving, you can adjust the charge pressure as well. I believe trialbyfire is running 150psi.

So unlike other shocks where you have to hope they provide the ride you want, you can completely change the ride characteristics of the FOXs to suit your preferences.

This is exactly why i was looking at the Fox shocks, for the tuning capability.

06, you were the other one that got some Fox shocks. I couldn't remember who it was earlier, lol. You get them from JBA?

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Yea they're on their site, I personally like the set up right now..

[Matt]

Got an update from FOX today. They should be finished up this week. So i'll probably have them the following weekend.

This Friday, while im doing my brakes, i'll probably mount the reservoir brackets to see if I can put the resi's where I want. That way when the shocks get here its just a 20 minute install.

[Core XK]

They are going to look awesome man! Cant wait for pics

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[Matt]

So its going to be CLOSE.... I wish I had 1/4" less backspace on my wheels. The drivers side tire just kissed my "dummy" resi today.

I think im going to add 1/2" or 1" to my bump stops and hopefully that takes care of it.

These are just the test pics. Used wingnuts for a quick r&r

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[Matt]

Plenty of clearance then the tire was just stuffed with the floor jack:

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But then when I went out and flexed it out on a cut stump... no more clearance. Though i was able to rotate the tire so it was just kissing it.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/03/20130329161650_zpsc37249d7-1.jpg

[Matt]

Ok got the rest of my supplies today. New shock bolts with cut threads as opposed to rolled threads so the shoulder is the correct size for the sleeves. And the ORW bushing mounts for the FOX shocks.

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[Matt]

Anyone around NJ want a set of 18" wheels, let me know. I'm a tid bit nervous about the resi clearance.. found some cheap 18x8.5s with 5.1" backspace i could run; that'd give me another 1/2" there.

[Matt]

Bummer. Just spent the morning finishing up the mounts and theres not enough clearance on the passenger side. Looks like they'll have to be piggyback.

[Matt]

Ok uploaded the pics this morning to show how far I got.

First thing I did was add 1/2" to my bump stop extensions. This would have help ensure enough clearance on the driver side.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130413105705_zps69df1b5e-1.jpg

Then drilled the holes in the passenger mount. Had a brain fart here, meant to make them mirror images and instead made them identical... oops (so i drilled more holes, but didn't take that picture)

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Getting the drivers-side situated....

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Once i was happy with the position, cut the extra threads off and put a nice coat of black paint over everything

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[Matt]

Then moved on to the passenger side and repeated...

I didn't think the passenger side would be an issue because the axle shifts towards the passenger side as the axle is compressed, pushing the tire out further. Well, that's not the case. When I checked for clearance I noticed immediately that the there was interference. In the pic below i'm not even close to full compression and still have well over an inch before even contacting the bump stop.

Conclusion..... I need 4.5" backspace to make this setup work :(

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130413143946_zpscdb8384e-1.jpg

So when the shocks show up on Tuesday i'll be doing the standard piggyback mount. And this'll be on hold until I get new wheels someday.

[thance]

Am I getting this straight????

You're selling your wheels and tires and buying new ..... just so you can mount the reservoirs in your favorite spot??????????

[Matt]

Well yes and no. I also want more aggressive tires. A bit of history- the toyos were a temp set I put on because I was planning on the superlift this spring (and I couldn't find a decent set of used tires). Well now the superlifts on hold for another ~2 years.

So yeah..... if someone wanted to buy my wheels/tires id love to put a set of duratracs back on and get more clearance in the wheel wells for the resi's.

[07JeepXK]

I don't think he really wants to run them piggy back if possible

[thance]

I know.... $2000 on wheels and tires later he's saved himself the expense of getting an SL for the time being and settled on a cool pair of shocks. I completely understand :p

[jjt250]

Well also consider the fact that he'd make money off his current rims and tires. Also, if he got the Superlift, he'd have to get new tires anyways. So $2000 for Superlift + like $1000 for Duratracs vs. new tires and rims - whatever he sells his current tire/rims for.

[Matt]

Edit: nevermind. I dont need to explain myself to anyone.

This type of nitpicking isn't becoming of TUJ. Theres other places you can go to scrutinize people's modding decisions.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Matt, just curious, since you said you dont have that adjustable track bar in the rear, do you think if you had one youd be able to mount the way you thought but adjusting the axle closer to stock'?? I know you said your axle barely shifted but 1/4" is really all you need correct..?

[Matt]

I thought about that, but then id lose the clearance I have on the drivers side and be in the same boat.

Thought about doing spacers too.... but then id want to run them up front too so the track width matched which means id rub like hell. Would rather run the shocks piggyback in that case.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Well it was worth a shot! Look on JF.com and post up your set up, may get someone to bite on em if thats what you want to do..

[Matt]

Im pretty much fine with keeping my current setup. I posted a FS thread here, asked around locally and ill shoot a PM on other sites when I see someone relatively local asking about lifts/wheels/tires. If they sell, sweet. If not, no prob. :)

I did find some cheap Incubus wheels that'd work. So I may have better luck just swapping my wheels out and selling my current set on craigslist to a JK owner or a superlifted xk/wk that'd want to run 305/65 or 305/70/18s. (Which was my plan)

[thance]

Edit: nevermind. I dont need to explain myself to anyone.

This type of nitpicking isn't becoming of TUJ. Theres other places you can go to scrutinize people's modding decisions.

Your right. You don't.

I was being a wiseass and just because it's not right for me doesn't mean it's not perfect for you.

My apologies.

[Matt]

^^^ we're good.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of playing with jeeps.

[Matt]

Although it pained my heart (lol not really), I put the bushings on the shocks this morning and set them up piggy back.

I put electrical tape around the cylinders to protect them a bit from the clamps.

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[Matt]

Next up, had to make sure i had enough clearance for the hoses.

Driver side cut away:

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2013/04/20130421154641_zpse4dae9ca-1.jpg

Passenger side marking the areas to cut:

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A quick trick to re-flatten this area for when you install new shocks. I also flex it outwards a bit to help get another washer in there.

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Making sure everything fits

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[Matt]

Painted, and installed:

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Aaaaand my supervisor checking out my work.....

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[stites-xk]

Awesome bro!

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[07JeepXK]

Nice! How does it drive with the new shocks?

[Matt]

Will let ya know tomorrow. Just went for a short ride to make sure there weren't any noises. I drove off my curb pretty quick though (high curb from tree I took down last summer) and it rebounded nicely. I have the CD adjuster turned all the way down... figure i'll leave it like that for a week and then crank them up to the max firm setting for another week, then figure out where i want to set it for DD.

[p@55w0rd]

Lookin' good!

[1USMC]

Can't go wrong with a Great Supervisor like you have !

[Matt]

eh... she's a bit bossy. Not gonna lie. And when she's mad at me she'll eat a lot of corn for dinner to really screw with me later...

[JustinS]

Things are looking great Matt, you'll have to let us know how the new shocks work out for you on your next offroading trip!

[thance]

eh... she's a bit bossy. Not gonna lie. And when she's mad at me she'll eat a lot of corn for dinner to really screw with me later...

Read this post before seeing who the supervisor was........... I was quite confused.

Looks good!

[criket]

Looks awesome man!

[lekmedm]

eh... she's a bit bossy. Not gonna lie. And when she's mad at me she'll eat a lot of corn for dinner to really screw with me later...

LOL!!!

Anyway, nicely done. :thumbup:

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[jjt250]

Looks awesome Matt! Have you checked out Omelet's build thread on JF lately? He recently got newer, longer travel Fox shocks than his old ones too! Making me jealous...

[Matt]

Going to update the rear shock thread with a reviews to try and keep things consistent.


Read this post before seeing who the supervisor was........... I was quite confused.

Looks good!

LMAO. Out of context, that can really be a weird comment!