Ordered my SuperLift 4" kit for my Commander

[xjhawk1964]

Ok...now...any horror stories about how long until I actually see it?

Ordered the master kit through 4wheelparts. They are going to install it.

I ordered AEV Pintler wheels, they are on their way. I am planning putting 305/65/17s on it, and sounds like I will need a 1" spacer.

Thoughts?

[Matt]

Which Pintlers did you get? The xk version doesnt play nicely with the superlift tie rods....

Id recommend different wheels.

[xjhawk1964]

Hmmm. They are the non-beadlock Pintlers.

I talked to the guys at 4wheel parts about the wheels that I was considering, and they said that I would most likely need a 1-1/4 spacer.

Do you guys think that this will work?
I really wanted these wheels, and they are made specifically for a Cherokee/Commander.

[Matt]

Consider it false advertising on their part. They refunded a member for his wheels (see link below). If you want Pintlers, get the JK offset.

Link
http://www.theultimatejeep.com/showthread.php?1898-Rack-and-pinion-needs-drop-on-Superlift

[paroxysym]

that sucks man... get yourself some black JK pintlers.

[xjhawk1964]

Just a hassle. New wheels get here and then send them back.
Any scuttlebutt on how long it is taking to get these lifts?

[07JeepXK]

Months!!! And you will want the JK pintlers

[xjhawk1964]

Seriously months?

[07JeepXK]

Yes very serious. It took one member like 8 months to get his. Unless something has changed since then

[xjhawk1964]

Yes very serious. It took one member like 8 months to get his. Unless something has changed since then

I spoke to Superlift. It is once again the EGR that is causing the delays. They said maybe a month from AEV on that part. They said the rest is ready to go.

I called 4Wheelparts, and they said that they have already recieved some of the kit.

Fingers crossed...

[07JeepXK]

You don't need the EGR module right away. Tell them to install the kit and you will add the module later . Just have to turn ESP OFF before driving til you get the module installed. My buddy is running the 4 inch bds lift and doesn't even have the module on any more and doesn't have any problems. He had to take it off because we swapped in 3.73 gears and needed a hypertech speedometer calibrator to correct for the new gear ratio and you can't use both the programmer and AEV module at the same time

[1USMC]

You don't need the EGR module right away. Tell them to install the kit and you will add the module later .


^^ That worked out great for me also, I ordered the EGR separately and installed it a month or two later. ^^




...... He had to take it off because we swapped in 3.73 gears and needed a hypertech speedometer calibrator to correct for the new gear ratio and you can't use both the programmer and AEV module at the same time

I picked up my Superchip Flashpaq #3875 in Sept 2010 and had to wait another month or so for Superchips to release the programming for my Commander. I use it for Speedo calibration, shift points and a few other misc. items. I did not do anything except tell the computer what axle I had when I first programmed it. So far.... I have not had any trouble ( that I know of.. LOL ) by using both of these particular computers at the same time ...

[07JeepXK]

Nice, that's good to know. It didnt work with the EGR module and hypertech speedometer calibrator together. Unless we did something wrong. Do you have the tire size corrected with the Flashpaq or EGR module?

[xjhawk1964]

You don't need the EGR module right away. Tell them to install the kit and you will add the module later . Just have to turn ESP OFF before driving til you get the module installed. My buddy is running the 4 inch bds lift and doesn't even have the module on any more and doesn't have any problems. He had to take it off because we swapped in 3.73 gears and needed a hypertech speedometer calibrator to correct for the new gear ratio and you can't use both the programmer and AEV module at the same time

Yeah, that is what I discussed with the guys at 4Wheelparts.

[1USMC]

Do you have the tire size corrected with the Flashpaq or EGR module?


I set the EGR first and then when I installed the Flashpaq I set it to the same tire size. I'm thinking that the Flashpaq has taken the lead, so to speak, because one day when I took the jeep to the dealer , I reset it back to factory settings (I had heard you should return the program to factory in case they also update it). My speedometer was now off and I had to program everything again.. Thats when I also learned that there is not a save feature, that would allow me to just go back to my custom program. Had to start from scratch. The last time I wrote down my setting before changing anything.. I'm getting smarter every day.

[xjhawk1964]

Is anyone running 305/65/17s with 4" of lift?

[stites-xk]

Is anyone running 305/65/17s with 4" of lift?

I run 285/70/r17 with the superlift but you can run 305/50/r17 with proper backspacing!

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[Matt]

Im a little lost with that one?

305/65/17 = 32.6 x 12.00
285/70/17 = 32.7 x 11.22
305/50/17 = 29.0 x 12.00

Seems to me that 305/65/17 would work great with the right width&backspace. ..

[07JeepXK]

If I had superlift I'd run 305/70R17 MT/Rs!!!

[stites-xk]

That's what im doing for my next set! After the ones i have are dead!

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[1USMC]

When I was looking for my wheels , the first two I ordered ended up being discontinued. I ended up having to evaluate 3 different wheels and their specks , then trying to find a tire size that would work for my usage and wheel size.

It was a learning experience for me ! I used this site > http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp < to help me evaluate all the different options and what kind of an effects they would have. I'm an amateur and I needed all the help I could get. So I really liked this calculator and I used it a lot.

[xjhawk1964]

Does anyone have a Superlift 4" kit in stock???

[LWM]

Does anyone have a Superlift 4" kit in stock???

I called my warehouse and we do (without the EGR)!

[07JeepXK]

Nice. To bad my current XK will never get a superlift. Maybe the next one. But I will have a few things to add to my build thread in the next few days that members will follow my foot steps in the near future

[06JeepXKHEMI]

If you're going thru with what I think you are, you should just do SL too

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[07JeepXK]

Nahhh don't need superlift

[criket]

I sense a SAS......maybe.........:D

[07JeepXK]

Well that was the plan, then the plan changed. I've decided I don't want to spend another $6,000+ on the XK. However some 34's with front and rear tube fenders will be in the works this summer. The transfer case will be getting rebuilt and QD II front axle installed this month.

[06JeepXKHEMI]

If you go to 34s I want your 33s!!!

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[thance]

Well that was the plan, then the plan changed. I've decided I don't want to spend another $6,000+ on the XK. However some 34's with front and rear tube fenders will be in the works this summer. The transfer case will be getting rebuilt and QD II front axle installed this month.

How will you control the front diff?

[07JeepXK]

If you go to 34s I want your 33s!!!

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My 33's only have half tread left on them bro. Already put about 20,000 miles on them

[07JeepXK]

How will you control the front diff?

With an ARB air locker switch on the dash. With the flip of a button the front end will be locked. But it will only be used for hill climbs or when really needed so I don't blow the solenoid inside the diff. I already have a rear locker so it will be a monster

[Matt]

I dont think 12vdc will work adam. Pretty sure it need a pwm signal....

Will do some looking when I get home tonight. Its very doable, just slightly more involved than running a power wire

[07JeepXK]

I dont think 12vdc will work adam. Pretty sure it need a pwm signal....

Will do some looking when I get home tonight. Its very doable, just slightly more involved than running a power wire

Yup 12 volt will work. This has already been bench tested by a member on the other forum who is converting his QT I to to QT II.


Well at least that's what I was told when duscussing this with him through PM's

If you could look into it that would be awesome. We will figure it out somehow. Just got to get it in the Jeep first.

[Matt]

Yeah Jim was doing it. I forget what he ended up doing and wasn't sure if you saw it. I thought he posted here too but maybe that was just the wss discussion.

[07JeepXK]

Yeah it was Jim. I forgot he's over here too. I edited my least post. If you can still look into it just to make sure that would be great. If 12vdc doesn't work maybe you can guide me in the right direction on how to make it work

[Matt]

Im near positive he ended up buying a pwm controller to get it to work. On my way to the in-laws for dinner but will read into it again tonight when I get home.

[07JeepXK]

I thought he needed the pwm controller for the tcase not the front diff

[lekmedm]

I thought he needed the pwm controller for the tcase not the front diff

Daveysjeeps.com has a set of Dana 44's from a 2004 Rubicon with air lockers and 4.10 gears for $3400. Time to swap!!!

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[07JeepXK]

Ok I read through the old PMs and Jim said he bench tested the ELSD for 30 min straight with 12vdc. He did mention to install a fuse and 12v regulator though. Matt what do you know about this 12v regulator. What's its purpose and how hard is it to install.

[hoaxci5]

Is it possible the solenoid accepts between 0-12volts to vary the level of "lock"? If that's the case a rheostat could be used to adjust the voltage level and also adjust the level..

[07JeepXK]

I'm not sure. I just know Jim used 12v to power it during the bench testing. If I can figure out the whole 12v regulator thing he was talking about and add an inline fuse I should be goos

[Matt]

I think you may be confusing his tcase motor bench test and the solenoid. iirc the tcase shift motor uses different voltages for different positions whereas the differential solenoid didn't respond to dc voltage and required a pwm signal.

[Matt]

Ok found it!

Looks like I stopped paying attention before Jim realized that DC does work:
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/showpost.php?p=189597&postcount=17

[07JeepXK]

Haha yeah I looked at all my old PMs and he told me that 12vdc powered the solenoid. But after reading that post from Jim, it looks like the solenoid doesn't retract after you take the power off the solenoid. Wouldn't that mean the front end would stay engaged even when I flipped the switch to the off position. That could be a big problem.

[hoaxci5]

From what I read in the post Matt linked, when there is no voltage the solenoid doesn't put any pressure on the switch, since nothing is holding it, it would disengage just by normal fluid moving past again.

[Matt]

I'd have to take a closer look at how the diff works again, and im a few beers too many in to try and figure it out lol, but i believe it stays full locked until the solenoid deactivates in which case the pressure differential from the egerodisc retracts the solenoid.