Range Report

[NeilSmith]

We finally got some decent weather Friday so I went out to the rifle range. I go to Hite Hollow which is at the base of the Blue Ridge in the George Washington National Forest. I took my AR and my recently acquired Remington 700 in .308. I have a Leupold Vari - X III 3.5 to 8 scope on it and hadnt had the chance to sight it in. The rifle is bone stock, right out of the box. There was an older guy there that had a tricked out .308 shooting his custom hand loads. This guy took at least 5 minutes to fire a single shot while I was sending rounds one after the other. I was shooting some German surplus 7.62 and he was surprised at how well I shot with the surplus stuff. I probably could have gotten better but the range was getting busy and these were my last shots. The lower left is a stray 5.56 round.:) Oh, here is also a gratuitous shot of the XK up on the fire road leading to the range.
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[Sal-XK]

Thats pretty good if you didn't zero it in at all. Who shot your target with a 5.56 round thats funny.

[NeilSmith]

Thats pretty good if you didn't zero it in at all. Who shot your target with a 5.56 round thats funny.

These were the final shots after zeroing it in. I wanted some more time but when there is a wait at the range you're supposed to spend no more than an hour at the bench. Some moron ( me ) hit my target while rapid firing their AR.

[Sal-XK]

These were the final shots after zeroing it in. I wanted some more time but when there is a wait at the range you're supposed to spend no more than an hour at the bench. Some moron ( me ) hit my target while rapid firing their AR.

Just noticed you zeroed in at 100 yards so thats pretty good then. It should only take you a few more rounds to be dead on. We zero at 10 meters which translates into a 300 meter zero for us. Out of habit thats what I thought I was looking at a 10 meter zero target LOL. Rapid fire takes a different set of skills, just takes practice.

[NeilSmith]

Rapid fire takes a different set of skills, just takes practice.
Yeah, it's amazing how you guys can hold on target on full auto or even a 3 round burst.

[IamJEEP]

Went to the range today and shot a .38 special, walther ppk .380, and a 44 magnum. I thought i did well with all of them being the first time shooting those weapons. I was shooting at 5 yards because thats in the range of where a perp will be attacking at. I wanted to rent a Springfield XD .45 Compact, but they did'nt have one available to rent. So i just shot the ones my co-worker brought with him. When i shot the 44 mag, everyone from the other lanes came over to see what i was firing, LOL. Thats a beast of a revolver and man what kick it has. Below is a pic of the 44 @ 5 yards, my first time shooting it. It was fun, now im hooked. The shop had a used Berreta M9 for $340, i wish i had the money cause i have always loved the look of that pistol. Oh well, here is that pic....

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[hoaxci5]

The shop had a used Berreta M9 for $340

If I'm not mistaken that is what my wife is issued to carry in the Navy. They must be pretty reliable because you know they are abused :)

[IamJEEP]

If I'm not mistaken that is what my wife is issued to carry in the Navy. They must be pretty reliable because you know they are abused :)

Yeah im kinda pissed that i had to pass it up, it felt "right" in my hand. They wouldnt put it on hold for me because it is on clearance. If its still there next time i go (probably next pay day), i will buy it. Fingers crossed.
This is not the actual pistol, but this is what it looks like....

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[Sal-XK]

Little advice bro stop anticipating the recoil while shooting and control your breathing. Based on were you hit the target those are the two thing you should work on.

[hoaxci5]

Yeah im kinda pissed that i had to pass it up, it felt "right" in my hand. They wouldnt put it on hold for me because it is on clearance. If its still there next time i go (probably next pay day), i will buy it. Fingers crossed.
This is not the actual pistol, but this is what it looks like....


Did you try to offer a non-refundable deposit or anything like that? If you really intend to purchase it and just need the funds that might help since they won't really be out anything at that point..

[IamJEEP]

Little advice bro stop anticipating the recoil while shooting and control your breathing. Based on were you hit the target those are the two thing you should work on.

That was my issue....if you look at the target, the first shot was way low but in the silouete(sp?). The next two shots were the #8 and the last three i was getting closer in the #9 spot. That gun just made me nervous with the recoil it had, I was thinking about the recoil before I even pulled the trigger...LOL.


Did you try to offer a non-refundable deposit or anything like that? If you really intend to purchase it and just need the funds that might help since they won't really be out anything at that point..

Yes I did, but they wanted 1/2 down and would only hold it for 4 weeks.......not enough to get the rest of the money.........kinda broke and priorities (pay back the vacation charges) are holding me back. I'm not worried about it, I'll find another one down the road.

[Sal-XK]

I was thinking about the recoil before I even pulled the trigger...LOL.

Oh I know bro that was pretty evident on the target. Doing that can cause you to hold your breath as well which can cause you to breath at the wrong time or starve you muscles of oxygen which makes them shaky. Just go over it in your head before and as you're shooting breath in breath out sight alignment squeeze don't anticipate recoil. For long range engagements you can practice pausing at the top or bottom of your breath briefly to get a shot off.

[IamJEEP]

Oh I know bro that was pretty evident on the target. Doing that can cause you to hold your breath as well which can cause you to breath at the wrong time or starve you muscles of oxygen which makes them shaky. Just go over it in your head before and as you're shooting breath in breath out sight alignment squeeze don't anticipate recoil. For long range engagements you can practice pausing at the top or bottom of your breath briefly to get a shot off.

Ok i will try that next time i go, hopefully with the same pistol.

[Tymac]

Sounds like you had a great time at the range. I haven't been out in some time now.

[IamJEEP]

Sounds like you had a great time at the range. I haven't been out in some time now.


I had a great time, the only problem is that I got addicted. Lol, I want to go every weekend just can't afford it. Our local gun show is this weekend, I'm going to see what prices I can find.

[Tymac]

I had a great time, the only problem is that I got addicted. Lol, I want to go every weekend just can't afford it. Our local gun show is this weekend, I'm going to see what prices I can find.

Price shop on new guns, quality shop on used guns. Hope that makes sense.

[IamJEEP]

Price shop on new guns, quality shop on used guns. Hope that makes sense.

Perfect sense, thanks.

[CmmdrDan]

I havent been shooting in ages. I want to go now..thanks. :(

[IamJEEP]

Met up with a couple of friends today at an open range. We had an awesome time shooting a bunch of different weappons. Sadly the guys with the crazy modded weapons didn't show up, but non the less it was a blast. You will have to forgive me for the lack of pics and quality, as I was too busy having fun shooting brass...LOL.

First we shot the pistols................From left to right (top)--M&P 9MM, Kimber 1911/ left to right (bottom)--Glock 26, CZ 75
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The fun pistol was the Walther P22.....

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I also shot a Makerov 8MM that I didn't get a pic of..

Continued...............

[IamJEEP]

Next were the rifles......First off the .22--one herd sights, one scoped...
My buddy Jeff shooting the scoped .22, I didn't get the hard sights pic...
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Bolt action .308--This thing is a beast!
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Steyer M95....
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Mosinangant........
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AK47....
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AR15....
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Needless to say........my shoulder is sore.

[Sal-XK]

Nice looks like fun man. Are you closer to a choice now?

[IamJEEP]

Nice looks like fun man. Are you closer to a choice now?

Yeah bro, it was a ton of fun. I am definately closer to my decision...........an AK47! LOL.....

Seriously tho, i liked the feel of the M&P. With that said, I still have to fire the XD before I can really decide.

[Sal-XK]

I'm really not sure what every ones infatuation is with the AK all though reliable it's a piece of crap to shoot. I never had my M4 let me down even with putting several combat loads threw it and its way more accurate much less recoil which really helps with shooting fatigue.

[IamJEEP]

I'm really not sure what every ones infatuation is with the AK all though reliable it's a piece of crap to shoot. I never had my M4 let me down even with putting several combat loads threw it and its way more accurate much less recoil which really helps with shooting fatigue.

Its one of those "cool factor" things to be honest. I had a target at 50 feet out and only got a quarter of shots fired to hit on target. I would love to shoot an M14, M4, and FAL. But i still want an AK.

[NeilSmith]

I think from a civilian point of view, the AK has always been kind of an " exotic ". Its always been what the enemy had instead of the same ol' - same ol' stuff that we had. Also , back in the 80s and 90s you could get a AK parts kit and build one pretty easily and cheap. They are still cheap. You can get a Romanian for $400. But now the market is absolutely flooded with the AR rifles. There are dozens of AR manufacturers out there and an endless amount of accessories for them. Its not so easy to put a quality optic on an AK and if you do the rifle doesnt shoot well anyway. The AR is a far superior platform for anything ranging from hunting to competition shooting to actual combat. The only thing that I like about the AK is that it has a larger round than the AR but that too isn't always ideal, especially if you have to carry 400 rounds on you .

[Sal-XK]

Its one of those "cool factor" things to be honest. I had a target at 50 feet out and only got a quarter of shots fired to hit on target. I would love to shoot an M14, M4, and FAL. But i still want an AK.

Let me tell you the M14 and the FAL will tear you up if your shoulder was sore at the range the other day these will put a hurt on you especially a non modified m14. The FAL accuracy again sucks much harder weapon to shoot but tons better then the AK. Keep in mind I have no civilian experience with these or any weapons all weapons I look at are strictly from a combat use situation.


The only thing that I like about the AK is that it has a larger round than the AR but that too isn't always ideal, especially if you have to carry 400 rounds on you .

Weight thing is a legit concern we carry enough out there and when you're rocking 23 30round mags it adds up fast LOL. I really wish they would of made the SAW conversion service wide I think everyone could of benefited from the larger rounds in that conversion not just a select few us that got them.

[NeilSmith]

I didnt know they ever did a conversion to the SAW. Was that to the 7.62 ? My buddy was a machine gunner in the Marines and he carried the M-60 Echo 3, he absolutely swears by that thing. I guess the SAW is a little smaller and I would assume lighter and I can see having it use the same round as the M4 to streamline things but the 7.62 provides a bit more punch out there.

[Sal-XK]

No offense to the marines out there ( not there fault) but they have the oldest most out of date stuff. The first time I bumped into them over seas only the squad leaders had night vision WTF. The SAW is Squad Automatic Weapon shoots the nato 5.56 and comes in two barrel sizes which we only ever used the short one. It went threw two very limited conversions and only two units were issued the final one shooting the 7.62 round 99% of people serving in the military won't even know the SAW went threw any changes at all in fact I laugh because you will bump into people all the time starring at our weapons wondering what half the stuff is or thinking we paid for the upgrades. LOL



PS: I kinda like the look to the software upgrade.

[NeilSmith]

He wouldn't take offense as he was in during the late 80s - early 90s. He always complains about not having any cool gear, NVG, radios, even knee pads !! LOL

[IamJEEP]

Here you go Sal, I'm sending you this in the mail. I know you have always wanted one....LOL....

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[Sal-XK]

That's funny send it I'll sell it and get some jeep parts LOL. I've had my hands on plenty of those even gold plated ones LOL. Still take a M4 with the small round over that thing.:)

[IamJEEP]

That's funny send it I'll sell it and get some jeep parts LOL. I've had my hands on plenty of those even gold plated ones LOL. Still take a M4 with the small round over that thing.:)

LOL..........sell it for Jeep parts, classic.

[superacerc]

Like Sal i'm not an AK fan either. I give it an A+ for being durable, I give it a C+ in the fun to shoot department and for accuracy. That being said I do like my SKS for reliability (same round as AK but different rifle completely and made in China). I have an AR that is great to shoot and accurate. It's still not my favorite but i give it an A+ in the Fun to shoot and accuracy departments and maybe a B+ in the reliability just cause it does need more attention to keep it running smooth. My favorite rifle that i've got is my 700 Remington SPS tactical (20" bull barrel) chambered in .308. With the SPS stock you can shoot it all day long and not take a beating. Being bolt action it's not a fast shooter but it hits it's mark every time. I hand load all my cartridges for it so they're pretty consistant. (even with the plain red box federal the first time i went to the range it Grouped .75" at 100yds) I give it a B in the fun to shoot category being a bolt action but an A++ in acuracy.

I took it to the range in the spring with about 6 of my co workers and let them try it out. We didn't end up shooting more than 15 rounds because it didn't offer any challenge. We brought about 20 apples and a few melons to shoot just to see some things explode. When we were shooting the .308 we used only apples at 150 yards. It's sighted in for 200 so i told everyone to put it about a centimeter high of the middle of the apple. No one had ever shot my rifle before and not a single apple was missed on the first shot by anyone. Everyone went back to shooting the AR15 and other semi autos for the fun factor promptly afterwards.

Anyone ever try and FN FS2000? I think that'll be my next purchase down the road.

[IamJEEP]

^^^^^^Great report, I like your grading stats. Thanks for your input.

I was looking at the SKS, but wasnt sure about it. How is the recoil on that thing?

[CoreyZ]

I think the Rem 700 in .308 is one of my favorite bolt actions. Definitely on my list of future purchases... with a nice optics system and a bipod.

I havent shot an FS2000 but have heard they are a blast. If you get to shoot one, post up your experience. Its a bit out of my range for a while... but damn would be nice!

[IamJEEP]

Here's a Yugoslavian SKS rifle......

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Here is a Romanian PSL/FPK Sniper Rifle........

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Both of these are on my "Must Have" list as well as the BA .308 and 30.06!

[NeilSmith]

Heres my Rem. 700 , .308 and my AR.
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First time out with the AR. It was like 15 degrees, I wanted to shoot it really bad. LOL !
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[pjmjr508]

Nice

[superacerc]

^^^^^^Great report, I like your grading stats. Thanks for your input.

I was looking at the SKS, but wasnt sure about it. How is the recoil on that thing?

Recoil is the same as an AK rougly. The amount you feel on your shoulder depend on the setup. I've got the synthetic Monte Carlo stock with a thick rubber butt pad which makes it feel a little better. I've also got a compensator on it which directs the gas flow upwards and side to side as it leaves the rifle which dissipates some of the rearward energy. I like shooting mine a lot and in fact i killed my first dear with it. It's no more accurate than an AK so anything past 150 yds is going to have some variance on groupings and hitting things past 200 yds is known to most only as luck. I've shot other's SKS rifles and with a plain stock and no compensator it kicks pretty decent to the point that it's not as much fun. The action is much quicker than an AK action so if you have ever seen one that has been modified for full auto (of course i've never seen this, i would quickly advise the owner that it's fully illeagal and i don't what are you talking about.........) it is most obscene to view. You almost can't hear the divisions between the shots. 15 rds goes by per 1 full second trigger pull. I really don't own one like this but i have seen it before and it's quite amazing.

The deer i shot with the SKS hollowpoint 7.62x39 round fell in one shot. I hit him behind the shoulders right under his spine. Upon first glance it looked like a straight no nonsense shot right through. There was one clean entry and exit. Upon cleaning out the deer i saw the real story behind why he went down so quickly. He was missing something about the size of a softball worth of tissue, lungs, etc.. and the bullet made a clean hollow cavity of the area. I shot him at about 50 yds in the woods of georgia.

It's a good rifle and not too pricey if you're taking down small to medium size game (Lower south whitetail deer, cyotes, turkey, wild dogs, etc...). It wouldn't be good for hunting western large game like moose, mule deer, etc...

Here's some pics of my very plain AR15 and Remington 700. The AR15 can be had through two websites for $550 dollars. I bought the upper parts assembly and had it shipped to my door no questions asked for about $460 from del-ton.com. The lower (only the hollow shell where the trigger and magazine fit into) is the only part that has a stamped serial number and therefore the only part you have to purchase through a dealer and only costs about $50 at www.AIMSURPLUS.com. Not a bad deal. I can post real links to the exact products if you wish.

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Rifiling, I was trying to be creative and go for the James Bond Opening Scene Look
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When i get back from Africa I'll post some pics of my SKS, Ruger MKIII Target .22LR pistol, and possibly a few others. I just bought a CZ82 9x18mm Makarov Pistol before i left. Talk about a good pistol for the money. It feels great and is accurate, has cheap ammo and I picked it up for $200 with a synthetic holster 2 magazines and a cleaning rod. It has a fixed inner barrel and that makes it a bit more accurate than many pistols.

[IamJEEP]

Heres my Rem. 700 , .308 and my AR.
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First time out with the AR. It was like 15 degrees, I wanted to shoot it really bad. LOL !
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Nice! Did you camo them yourself?

[IamJEEP]

Recoil is the same as an AK rougly. The amount you feel on your shoulder depend on the setup. I've got the synthetic Monte Carlo stock with a thick rubber butt pad which makes it feel a little better. I've also got a compensator on it which directs the gas flow upwards and side to side as it leaves the rifle which dissipates some of the rearward energy. I like shooting mine a lot and in fact i killed my first dear with it. It's no more accurate than an AK so anything past 150 yds is going to have some variance on groupings and hitting things past 200 yds is known to most only as luck. I've shot other's SKS rifles and with a plain stock and no compensator it kicks pretty decent to the point that it's not as much fun. The action is much quicker than an AK action so if you have ever seen one that has been modified for full auto (of course i've never seen this, i would quickly advise the owner that it's fully illeagal and i don't what are you talking about.........) it is most obscene to view. You almost can't hear the divisions between the shots. 15 rds goes by per 1 full second trigger pull. I really don't own one like this but i have seen it before and it's quite amazing.

The deer i shot with the SKS hollowpoint 7.62x39 round fell in one shot. I hit him behind the shoulders right under his spine. Upon first glance it looked like a straight no nonsense shot right through. There was one clean entry and exit. Upon cleaning out the deer i saw the real story behind why he went down so quickly. He was missing something about the size of a softball worth of tissue, lungs, etc.. and the bullet made a clean hollow cavity of the area. I shot him at about 50 yds in the woods of georgia.

It's a good rifle and not too pricey if you're taking down small to medium size game (Lower south whitetail deer, cyotes, turkey, wild dogs, etc...). It wouldn't be good for hunting western large game like moose, mule deer, etc...

Here's some pics of my very plain AR15 and Remington 700. The AR15 can be had through two websites for $550 dollars. I bought the upper parts assembly and had it shipped to my door no questions asked for about $460 from del-ton.com. The lower (only the hollow shell where the trigger and magazine fit into) is the only part that has a stamped serial number and therefore the only part you have to purchase through a dealer and only costs about $50 at www.AIMSURPLUS.com. Not a bad deal. I can post real links to the exact products if you wish.

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https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/08/IMG_2731-1.jpg
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/08/IMG_2730-1.jpg
Rifiling, I was trying to be creative and go for the James Bond Opening Scene Look
https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/08/IMG_2728-1.jpg

When i get back from Africa I'll post some pics of my SKS, Ruger MKIII Target .22LR pistol, and possibly a few others. I just bought a CZ82 9x18mm Makarov Pistol before i left. Talk about a good pistol for the money. It feels great and is accurate, has cheap ammo and I picked it up for $200 with a synthetic holster 2 magazines and a cleaning rod. It has a fixed inner barrel and that makes it a bit more accurate than many pistols.

Nice arsenal! I deffinately have the 700 and now the SKS on my future own list. The AR is nice and I want one but it's not on the top of my list, I like vintage stuff that are cool. I wouldn't mind having an M1 Carbine sometime in the future (alltho they are hard (and expensive) to find.

[superacerc]

I too like the old guns quite a bit. With a C&R (Curio and Relic) liscence you can pick up lots of surplus vintage stuff super cheap (comparitively speaking). You can get Mosinagants for 65-150 dollars, the old CZ pistols are cheap and several others. The advantage is that with that type of liscence you can buy a functional gun off the internet from surplus dealers and it will come directly to your house. You can also find M1 rifles as well. I like the M1's but we still work with them in a training environment in the Coast Guard (boot camp, OCS, parades, etc...) so i've had enough of them. They are nice though. My dad has at least 65-70 different guns but really likes the mosin nagant's for a hunting rifle and usually will take those into the woods cause he doesn't mind them getting beat up. He bought 2 for $89 each last year and changed the stock out and put a nicer safety with a pull loop on the one he uses to hunt ( the stock safety is a real pain to use). .303 British are quite nice old finds.

[NeilSmith]

oh yeah, I am not afraid of spray paint ! LOL !!!!!

[IamJEEP]

I too like the old guns quite a bit. With a C&R (Curio and Relic) liscence you can pick up lots of surplus vintage stuff super cheap (comparitively speaking). You can get Mosinagants for 65-150 dollars, the old CZ pistols are cheap and several others. The advantage is that with that type of liscence you can buy a functional gun off the internet from surplus dealers and it will come directly to your house. You can also find M1 rifles as well. I like the M1's but we still work with them in a training environment in the Coast Guard (boot camp, OCS, parades, etc...) so i've had enough of them. They are nice though. My dad has at least 65-70 different guns but really likes the mosin nagant's for a hunting rifle and usually will take those into the woods cause he doesn't mind them getting beat up. He bought 2 for $89 each last year and changed the stock out and put a nicer safety with a pull loop on the one he uses to hunt ( the stock safety is a real pain to use). .303 British are quite nice old finds.

Yep, hopefully my Nagant will arrive shortly....paid $80 plus change. I was going to change the stock on it for better erganomics, but I like the old look of it. Ok, you have to stop mentioning these other rifles, 'cause i will just keep adding them to my list. LOL......

[IamJEEP]

oh yeah, I am not afraid of spray paint ! LOL !!!!!

Lol, neither am I bro. I plan on doing my own camo job on the .22lr I'm getting. Thinking about more of an Urban or Desert camo, tho.

[superacerc]

Yep, hopefully my Nagant will arrive shortly....paid $80 plus change. I was going to change the stock on it for better erganomics, but I like the old look of it. Ok, you have to stop mentioning these other rifles, 'cause i will just keep adding them to my list. LOL......
Sorry. I'll stop at that then unless provoked by others. The nagant has a good kick to it. Especially if left stock/wooden. There are some nice compensators out for it as well as some long eye relief pistol type scopes that work well with it. Ends up as a great hunting rifle. Check out surplus ammo and you can pick up some deals if you watch for them.

[IamJEEP]

Sorry. I'll stop at that then unless provoked by others. The nagant has a good kick to it. Especially if left stock/wooden. There are some nice compensators out for it as well as some long eye relief pistol type scopes that work well with it. Ends up as a great hunting rifle. Check out surplus ammo and you can pick up some deals if you watch for them.

Yeah my shoulder felt that kick several times that last outing, but it was a fun rifle to shoot!

[superacerc]

Alright Caleb here's another to add to your list. My dad just got this one and had to try it out.
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Hope it posts right.
Just click the image to go to my photobucket page with the video. Heres a still shot of the auto auto and my cz82 makarov.
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[IamJEEP]

Oh great thanks a lot! LOL Those look like fun.

[superacerc]

I just got some new goodies for the AR15. I haven't had this gun a year yet and being gone i've not had time to mess with it. On the way home i ordered a few parts:
1. A new magazine with the ability to see how many are left from Magpul
2. New angled fore grip and rail to attach it. (Also Magpul)
3. SSAR15 Stock. My dad picked one of these up for me and suggested i give it a try. I've got to find my original trigger guard before i can mount the stock. I can't wait to try it out. Here's a link to a youtube video explaining the stock. http://youtu.be/l0BgLk1i9yY I think you gents may like it.
My next upgrade will be the Bushnell Red dot that is very similar to the current mil spec model and flip up back up sighthttp://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-zoom-dot-tactical-riflescope.html. I've already got the High scope mount that will let the red dot coincide with back up sights should the red dot fail. I'm going to remove the picitiny mounted handle and rear sight altogether and am contemplating switching out the fixed front sight for a gas block with rail to put the front flip up sight on. Anyone have pros and cons to leaving the front sight as is and just putting a rear flip up or switching out for gas block and two flip up sights? I'd be interested to hear thoughts.
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[IamJEEP]

Thats a nice stock addition but its half the price of the rifle. Its worth it if you shoot a lot, tho. Nice AR btw, add some action shots when you can.

[LWM]

I wish I had spent a little more 10 years ago when I purchased mine and got one with the rails, I have the fixed upper handle instead.

[NeilSmith]

I wish I had spent a little more 10 years ago when I purchased mine and got one with the rails, I have the fixed upper handle instead.
same here Jon. no big deal to change out the upper though, just a little money.

[superacerc]

I'm glad i've got the rail with the handle mounted to it. I'll be happy to streamline it and remove my handle/front sight when i put on the red dot.

It is a pricey stock (nothing compared to hard core ar15 fanatics favorites). There are quite a few really expensive parts out for these guns and most don't do anything special. If you are looking for the full auto feature and don't want to spend $15k for the regular m16 300 bucks isn't too much really. I'm not a fan of wasting ammo so i'll probably use it on semi auto most of the time but its nice to have it just in case.

[cico7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8BcZA3LqA]I want
I saw this over the weekend, I may have to get this....


http://youtu.be/U9kGOSDrcq4]best home defense weapon

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/08/207191-1.jpg

[IamJEEP]

Oh yeah, thats nice!

Whats the price range on that bad boy?

[superacerc]

I'm assuming you mean for the stock, about $350.

[cico7]

I'm assuming you mean for the stock, about $350.ha! gander mountain wanted 4+ for it

[IamJEEP]

ha! gander mountain wanted 4+ for it

GM is always over priced!

[IamJEEP]

I'm assuming you mean for the stock, about $350.

I meant the shotty Cico posted, but thanks.

[cico7]

I meant the shotty Cico posted, but thanks.
ME too. I saw it listed at $350 but Gander was about 450....

[superacerc]

^Roger. Thats a nice ShtGn. I've got the simple MossBrg 500 for turkey hunting and clay shooting. That one looks pretty sweet though!

[IamJEEP]

So I took the Ruger 10/22 out for it's first shooting session today. The rifle fires great and accurate (unlike me, lol) and no problems what-so-ever, just kept shooting. Here are some pics....

These targets were before I realized that the rear sights were in the down (folded) possition, D'OH!!!

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171735-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171806-1.jpg

Then after the rear sites were up...

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171620-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171636-1.jpg

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171826-1.jpg

Then a rapid fire to end the session.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171843-1.jpg

I ended up shooting 230 rounds on to 20 something targets, it was a blast.

[superacerc]

Sounds Fun! It feels nice to know that shooting .22lr's don't hurt your pocket book too bad. 230 rounds equates to about 9-10 dollars. Glad you like it! I went to the range on friday as well. Shot about 200 9mm, 150 9mm makarov, and about 200 .22lr (there were 2 of us there). Had a blast as usual.

[CmmdrDan]

I wish the range my dad belonged to did get ruined. They decided to cut a walking path right past the range. It ran parallel to the range but they still had the range shut down for almost 2 years. My dad paid his dues the whole time in hopes it would open and be even better. Well it opened but they wanted each member to go through a safety course. My dad felt that was bull**** and should have been waived with his background. (10 years Air force(or as Sal calls it Chair Force) 4 years as a prison guard and at that time 8-9 years police) They wouldn't waive it and he told them to pound sand. Haven't shot in about 5 years..

[cico7]

I am glad you had the directional marker pointing where the hole is supposed to be.
Should help out next time.....

So I took the Ruger 10/22 out for it's first shooting session today. The rifle fires great and accurate (unlike me, lol) and no problems
Then after the rear sites were up..

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/09/091111171826-1.jpg

[IamJEEP]

Lol.....Don thats funny.

Actually, if you look at the center rows where I was off quite a bit...........that's when my contacts were acting up, drying out and getting blurry. I'm not making an excuse here, just an observation.

I have to figure out how I can keep from this happening. The problem is that contacts are shaped for your eye at center. When you look down the rifle, you are looking slightly upwards which kinda moves the contact slightly off center( causing a blurr in your vision). In normal use all you do is blink to "rewet/reset" the lens and you can hardly tell. But, when looking upward and you blink, the lens gets off center and blurrs your vision.

[Sal-XK]

Based on what you said bro your not shooting properly. Bring the weapon up to your head not your head down to the weapon.

[IamJEEP]

Based on what you said bro your not shooting properly. Bring the weapon up to your head not your head down to the weapon.

I tried that but it didn't feel comfortable. The buttstock was half above my shoulder, I'll try some different stances and possitions with the firearm this weekend.

[sean112280]

"Actually, if you look at the center rows where I was off quite a bit...........that's when my contacts were acting up, drying out and getting blurry. I'm not making an excuse here, just an observation."


Sounds like an excuse to me........lol just giving you hell

[IamJEEP]

Sounds like an excuse to me........lol just giving you hell

BAN him!!!!! LOL..... ;)

[sean112280]

:p

[IamJEEP]

Took my SR9c to the range yesterday and shot around 70 rounds through it. Here are some pics of the carnage...

SR9c
Federal 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
17 Round Mag
2" Bullseye

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/10/100211171443-1.jpg

SR9c
Winchester 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
10 Round Mag
1" Bullseye

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2011/10/100211171650-1.jpg

SR9c
Federal 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
10 Round Mag
2" Bullseye

https://theultimatejeep.com/notfound.png

[cico7]

Which was 1st, 2nd, last?? Well, 10/25/11 must be last, since it isnt here yet!

Took my SR9c to the range yesterday and shot around 70 rounds through it. Here are some pics of the carnage...

SR9c
Federal 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
17 Round Mag
2" Bullseye

SR9c
Winchester 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
10 Round Mag
1" Bullseye


SR9c
Federal 115gr FMJ bulk ammo
Weaver Stance
5 Yards
10 Round Mag
2" Bullseye

[IamJEEP]

Which was 1st, 2nd, last?? Well, 10/25/11 must be last, since it isnt here yet!

LOL!!!!! Good eye, I didn't notice that till after I posted....oh well.

[XK N00b]

Went to CCW class today results of shooting:
https://theultimatejeep.com/notfound.png

Started at bottom group "standard shooting" shoot how you normally would.
Next group up was after being told to feel for the trigger reset and not let the trigger fully out. Trouble is, my Kahr doesn't have one it's DAO every shot.
Next group (throat) was 5 rounds of right hand only, 5 rounds left hand only, and 5 rounds left hand shooting with right hand supporting. (this was reversed for lefties) The four wayward shots were of the last 5 shots.
Head shots were shot as fast as I could

[IamJEEP]

Went to CCW class today results of shooting:
https://theultimatejeep.com/notfound.png

Started at bottom group "standard shooting" shoot how you normally would.
Next group up was after being told to feel for the trigger reset and not let the trigger fully out. Trouble is, my Kahr doesn't have one it's DAO every shot.
Next group (throat) was 5 rounds of right hand only, 5 rounds left hand only, and 5 rounds left hand shooting with right hand supporting. (this was reversed for lefties) The four wayward shots were of the last 5 shots.
Head shots were shot as fast as I could

Nice, you did well bro!