Mud Fest!!!!

[Holaday07 4.7]

http://www.buchanansmudfest.net/

One of my favorie events in Missouri. Kind of a hoosier festival, and last time I was there I sank my old Pathfinder to the windshield. Not doing that this time, but am going to try the trails, smaller pits, and man made rock course. Wish more of you all lived in St. Louis or close by, this is a great event.

[Sal-XK]

Wish more of you all lived in St. Louis or close by, this is a great event.

Now why would you wish such a horrible thing on the rest of us? What did we do to you? LMAO Just kidding bro, I hate the north almost as much as I hate mud hahahahaha. Have fun get some pictures for us to drool over.

[Holaday07 4.7]

Now why would you wish such a horrible thing on the rest of us? What did we do to you? LMAO Just kidding bro, I hate the north almost as much as I hate mud hahahahaha. Have fun get some pictures for us to drool over.

If you are being technical, Missouri fell into the South, but yeah after years of mud runnign though, it gets easier to clean. Just put the sprinkler underneath overnight and it gets most everything off. Lots of pics for sure, can't wait to see how it does in the mud.

[hoaxci5]

Have fun, I did when I went to http://redneckyachtclubfl.com/ it helped that my buddy is a professional detailer though so afterwords I didn't have to do much cleaning :)

[Sal-XK]

You'll have to play with the ESP button to get the right setting or pull the ABS fuse to keep the traction control from getting you stuck. That's what others have done just repeating what they have said.

[hoaxci5]

I know I did the long press ESP off for my mud adventures and that seemed to work fine. Not sure on the difference with QT2 vs QD2 for the mud though..

[Sal-XK]

Big difference for sand and mud with the QD2. Yours will lock the axles with wheel spin obviously you know that but the QT2 will only allow so much wheel spin before it steps in to correct the problem in any setting and we all know how bad that can be if your bogging threw the loose stuff. That's why some guys just pull the ABS fuse someone even put a switch on there ABS fuse to kill it when they wanted.

[hoaxci5]

ESP in full off (whatever long press gets you..) adjusts how quickly the traction control kicks in right?
Is it not enough for mud/sand when it's deep before your brakes start kicking?

[Holaday07 4.7]

I got into a bunch of mud last weekend and just turned the ESP off, seemed to allow enough wheel spin to clean out the luggs on the mud terrains. With 10,000 people and 1,000 trucks if I'm stuck I wont be there long. The trails are really tight and hilly so I will use 4 lo for them, let the engine do the breaking and try not to slide into the trees. It will be interesting to say the least. I'll get plenty of pics and hopefully won't break too much. Never had a vehicle with a computer involved, I am sure I will miss my Detriot Locker

[Holaday07 4.7]

Have fun, I did when I went to http://redneckyachtclubfl.com/ it helped that my buddy is a professional detailer though so afterwords I didn't have to do much cleaning :)

Some day I will have my Rockwelled Big Block Mud truck, but time, money, and space will allow that

[hoaxci5]

Mildly inappropriate if you are around small children or at work.. but not too bad since it's you tube.. however totally appropriate for the conversation at hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfMZJLbexQ&feature=player_embedded#at=223

[Sal-XK]

ESP in full off (whatever long press gets you..) adjusts how quickly the traction control kicks in right?
Is it not enough for mud/sand when it's deep before your brakes start kicking?

It's usually enough for a lot of situations. But if your in real deep stuff and need those wheels to spinning to keep you going pulling the fuse is probably needed. It's something you need to figure out for your self I don't play in mud so I don't know. I do spend a lot of time in deep soft sand but my tires grip like there on concrete so I've never needed even 4LO in the stuff where everyone else was getting stuck. LOL

[Holaday07 4.7]

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[Holaday07 4.7]

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[Holaday07 4.7]

First off, I suck at actually taking pictures, and it was soo muddy we all stayed in the jeep to keep from trashing the inside. We were the only Commander that we saw, and did all of the river trails, which are a lot harder than they looked because of the narrow openings between trees and abundant mud. My little brother follow us around in his ZJ and we pulled him out after every stuck. We finnaly got to a crazy hill climb and a bunch of guys with Wranglers and Heavily modified XJ's were hanging out watching. They started laughing as we pulled up and said "akk the real Jeeps made it, why dont you try" We drove right up it with almost no wheel spin. We saw them later and there was no laughing then. Weird thing to mention as well, once there was mud packed under the whole body, we had major tire rubbing issues. Besides that and the endless cleaning, it was awesome!

[hoaxci5]

The best part about wheeling a Commander is making Wrangler owners jaws drop.

Mud is so much fun and so much work.

[Sal-XK]

Holy crap dud your crazy LOL all that mud man. As crazy as people think I am it would of took some serious peer pressure to get me out in that stuff bro. And I would of been bitching all week cleaning the jeep up LOL

[pjmjr508]

then you would have not gone with me a few weeks ago, happy jeep is still covered in mud & a lot of mud got inside. its what happens when it rains for 2 days straight while camping & when doing really muddy trails. playing in the mud is a blast

[Sal-XK]

then you would have not gone with me a few weeks ago, happy jeep is still covered in mud & a lot of mud got inside. its what happens when it rains for 2 days straight while camping & when doing really muddy trails. playing in the mud is a blast

I avoid mud if I can I will go around it LMAO. I guess I'm partial to the rocks and ledges out here by me.

[Holaday07 4.7]

I have to admit, I will be following this same school of thought. I have more weird vibrations, rubbing, and shuddering after doing this, that it just is not worth it. Maybe if there is mud on a trail then cool, but no more hitting 2 ft deep pits all day. Way too much work after for me.

[Sal-XK]

I have to admit, I will be following this same school of thought. I have more weird vibrations, rubbing, and shuddering after doing this, that it just is not worth it. Maybe if there is mud on a trail then cool, but no more hitting 2 ft deep pits all day. Way too much work after for me.

IMO mud breaks more stuff then rocks and ledges. It also has long term effects were rocks once your off your off mud sticks around drying out seals and boots and stuff. It's fun once an a while I guess but straight to the car wash I would go LOL

[XK N00b]

I think I agree with Sal on this one, I LOOOVVVVEEE playing in the mud, it's not a good day mudding if you can still see paint, at least I used to think so. I figured my dad was going to kill me when I was 16 and brought his F-350 crew cab home with 3" of mud piled on the hood from splashing through mud holes at ungodly speeds. Now, it's just not worth the cleanup afterwards, and when you get out and shut the doors, more mud falls out everywhere as a reminder. Ahh, it's so bittersweet.
looks and sounds like you had a blast

[Holaday07 4.7]

I spent an hour under the Jeep today and removed about 20 more lbs of dried mud from it. It had packed in around the boots on the front axle and it was extremely hot for the short trip to the gas station. Another thing to mention, the 4x Gaurd fron skid had about 3 inches of mud on top that I could not get at the car wash. Most of the vibrations and noises are gone now, but every time it rains it is real easy to tell where I parked. The mud is endless

[pjmjr508]

I know the feeling as well. Right now still trying to get all the mud off the out & inside of it from over a month ago lol. it sucks & has to be hand done because of all the mods won't fit @ the car wash lol

[NeilSmith]

Im with Sal. I dont mind getting my rig dirty when off road, its not a mall crawler after all. But I will not put it in mud unless its unavoidable on a tight trail. Here in Virginia, we have red clay that will absolutely stain everything that it comes in contact with, even before you can get to a carwash . I do not want my stuff stained all up from that stuff.