Bead Lock Wheel Discussion

[07JeepXK]

those beadloacks work on the XK? I have been looking for Beadloacks for the XK that I don't need to use spacers with like with the AEV ones


I too would like bead lock wheels.

Those are fake bead lock wheels. They just take the original Mickey Thompson Classic II wheel and add a fake bead lock ring and call it the Mickey Thompson Classic Lock Wheel. Phunkeydude was running a set of classic II wheels on his Xk but has since sold it for a 4 door JK Wrangler. They fit fine, just stick out quite a bit. You would definately benefit from running a 4 inch lift with those wheels and modification of the inner fenders is still required. You wouldnt need wheel spacers either.

[cico7]

Some of those laws would not apply to after market wheels. They apply to new vehicle sales only. There was a thread on this is "The Other" forum as i recall.

Here:
AEV Beadlock Wheels are DOT compliant: Doesn't that mean they are street legal?
Not necessarily. AEV wheels are designed to all applicable DOT Standards regarding wheel construction and have passed the SAE Tests for Radial Fatigue, Impact, and Cornering Fatigue. Currently, DOT or SAE has no specific regulation or test requirements for beadlock wheels.

AEV Beadlock Statement (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/wheels/beadlock_info.php)

From liftlaws.com:
In creating LiftLaws.com we went through the street legal laws of each state and not a single one references beadlocks. In fact, most state's laws don't mention wheels at all and those that do only require that the wheels be safe. (http://www.liftlaws.com/are_beadlocks_street_legal.htm)


$100 LIFTLAWS.COM BOUNTY- Anyone that provides us with documentation that shows that beadlocks are illegal in any state or sends us a copy of a fix-it ticket they received for their beadlocks will have $100 donated to the BlueRibbon Coalition in their name.

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[Holaday07 4.7]

Beadlocks have a couple of flaws, tough to balance, leak, and there is some maitinance that goes along with them. I dont ever go down to single digits in my tires, but I think the Staun Internal Beadlocks would be a great option for the Commander. If it is the look there are a lot of companies that do the Street Lock or Faux Beadlock rings. I like them, and would love to get a set of the Walkwer Evans wheels, but its hard to justify the cost.

[Tymac]

I've been running steel Bassett (think dirt track racing) beadlocks on my YJ for a few months. Aside from a couple of light scratches and a small ding in the lock ring they are good. I got them new for $110 each and that included shipping. There are some pictures in the Wrangler, YJ, TJ thread area. Might be limited on a good offset for the Commanders though. Also the 15" limit might not clear the caliper.

Here is the link. Wheels are at the bottom.

http://www.bassettwheel.com/4x4_offroad.html

[Holaday07 4.7]

THese are 17 inch DOT approved Beadlocks:

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Walker-Evans-17-Beadlock-Wheel-Standard-5-to-6-Backspace-p-18725.html

Tad bit out of my price range, but I love the way they look.

[pjmjr508]

Nice wheels but way out of my price range right now.

[Holaday07 4.7]

Hahah same here, thats why I was thinking the Staun Internal Beadlocking system would work great. Holds the tire on the bead, no new wheel needs to be purchased.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/Staun-Internal-Beadlock.aspx?t_c=11&t_s=107&t_pt=100684&t_pl=9604&t_pn=STNSBLN1779

still a bit high, but better than stranded. I think I will just stick with the wheels I am currently scratching up, and see whats out there when they can't be cleaned anymore.

[pjmjr508]

Now that looks cool, how good is that system really? Never heard of it or of any one that has used it.

[Holaday07 4.7]

Alot of competition guys run them, plus you can run a tire thats flat if needed just to get off a trail. Fourwheeler did a write up on them, Ill try and find the link.

[pjmjr508]

TY. I have a charge account with 4 wheel parts so if these are that good I might just have to try them out

[Holaday07 4.7]

Lucky, I can't take that out of the wedding fund, baby momma would kill me.

[pjmjr508]

I understand & thats different account & I would be dead if I were to even thimk about touching it lol

[Holaday07 4.7]

Hey I wonder if Doc can make the weld on Beadlocks for a steel wheel. You could have a custom ring on the outside, and they would be effective.

[pjmjr508]

I have a person in my 4x4 club out of OR that is making beadlocks if you have steel wheels, but I have yet to find steel wheels that will fit on the XK. (to be honest I haven't really looked hard either. I bent one of my rims so need to either get that repaired or replace it.

[Holaday07 4.7]

Redbulljoker from the "other forum" had a set of 17 inch black steel wheels. I'll try to find who made them though, just came accross a thread on a different sight that had beadlocks for under $500 total with the wheels. I like the look of them, and they are functional too

[pjmjr508]

love to see the info on those

[Holaday07 4.7]

Wooohooo Pulled the trigger on a set of Allied 32 bold beadlocks. As long as they ballance well and hold air without problems, Iam ordering a set for the XK too

[Matt]

Sweet! Which ones did you get? Width/backspace?

[Holaday07 4.7]

Sweet! Which ones did you get? Width/backspace?

http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/allied-rt51-daytona-beadlock-wheel-15x8-5x45-375bs-p-12324.html

Last weekend a poped a bead and it looks like one of the wheels actually turned on the rim. rides like crap now. My old lady gave me approval, adn i didnt hesitate

[Matt]

Damnit I checked the website and saw the RT233 which look awesome and are 17x8.5 with 4.75" backspace (not much worse than my current setup).... but they're all "not DOT approved for highway use" and they also seem to state a max pressure of 25 psi.

....my search continues

[Holaday07 4.7]

Damnit I checked the website and saw the RT233 which look awesome and are 17x8.5 with 4.75" backspace (not much worse than my current setup).... but they're all "not DOT approved for highway use" and they also seem to state a max pressure of 25 psi.

....my search continues

BTW not DOT approved is not ticketable. If i am correct you have your old wheels and tires in your back yard for allignment, so you could still pass inspection with a quick swap. THat would be the only possible time you would run into trouble. There is nothing illegal about not DOT approved. as far as the 25 psi, there are several guys in my club that run them at 35 psi with 0 issues for several years. I will give you an update as I rack up the miles on these

[Matt]

It may not be ticketable, but there's enough risk to me so its just not worth it. Have a tire blow out and cause an accident- wonder what insurance would do if they found out I wasn't running DOT approved wheels and/or the wheel manufacturer specs 25 PSI max. Not to mention the XK drives my family (2 very young kids) for all our long trips/vacations. Whether they're "safe" for long term street use is debatable.... it could be the manufacturer just doesn't want to go through the trouble to get the proper DOT approvals, or it could be they're actually not safe for long term high speed street use. Regardless, just another risk not worth taking due to the liabilities involved IMO; they're just wheels.

[Holaday07 4.7]

true and extremely good points. The TJ doesnt see any real street time, so I am rolling the dice on that. In my search I found some DOT approved add ons for the Moab Wheels though, let me find the link.

[Holaday07 4.7]

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/05/Moabs-1.jpg
http://www.omfperformance.com/beadlocked_wheels.php

[Matt]

Oh yeah man, if this was more of a trail rig where I basically drove it to the trails or around the town for short trips- i'd run them too. For a 9+ hour drive on the highway to OBX, or 3 hour trips to Maryland, Vermont, etc I'll stick with the safer bet.

Gonna check out those one other you just posted, I like the 5-star look!

[Holaday07 4.7]

Oh yeah man, if this was more of a trail rig where I basically drove it to the trails or around the town for short trips- i'd run them too. For a 9+ hour drive on the highway to OBX, or 3 hour trips to Maryland, Vermont, etc I'll stick with the safer bet.

Gonna check out those one other you just posted, I like the 5-star look!

I agree. I almost went with the DIY weld ons, but I was scared one of those might fail with my family in the Jeep. I can see that headline and it is not a good one.

The link above looks like you can transform any wheel into a beadlock.

[Matt]

That link is pretty cool. I wonder if a similar principle could be used just for installing rock rings. I don't think i wheel enough to really need beadlocks with this rig, but i beat the hell out of my wheels on the rocks.... Finding a wheel with replaceable rings with the proper backspace and that dont cost a mini fortune has been the difficult part.

[Holaday07 4.7]

I like the rock knobs too, almost a slider or skid for the bold heads

[Omelet]

I have always liked the benefits of the internal beadlocks, so for a while I planned to go with Staun until I recently discovered this company:

http://www.innerairlock.com/beadlocks/

Same thing just a little cheaper! That way I don't have to buy new wheels, plus I can keep my light weight Moabs instead of using heavy beadlock wheels. I still want to protect the bead from getting chewed up off road so I will probably do some kind of replacement ring too. Something I have been toying with:

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/05/6087e3d4-1.jpg

[AJeepZJ]

That's pretty cool... How much would a set of 4 run?

[Omelet]

Not sure, I haven't really looked into pricing yet.

[pjmjr508]

17 x 8~10 $552.oo

I like what I see so far with this

[Holaday07 4.7]

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/06/beadlocks-1.jpg

Wooohooo. Pain in the ass to mount. 32 bolts per ring, and each has to be tourqed three times to 18 ft/lb.

[Matt]

Sweet man. Must be tedious as hell to torque though...

[07JeepXK]

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/06/beadlocks-1.jpg

Are those Smittybilt XRC tube fenders and rock sliders? My brother has them and they look identical to yours. If so they are amazing!!!

[Holaday07 4.7]

PITA, and I am very confident that I will never run Beadlocks on a DD. Just too much to check all the time.

07- Yeah they are ****tyuilt tube fenders, but Genright sliders with the step. Smittybuilt stuff is already rusting.

[07JeepXK]

Hmmm. My brother has had his Smittybilt XRC Tube Fenders and Rock Sliders for about a year now and no rust yet. Its bound to happen im sure but in my eyes as long as the do what they were built for all is good.

[Holaday07 4.7]

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/12/newrings-1.jpg

Bent the **** out of two of them this year.

https://theultimatejeep.com/images/imported/2012/12/Jeep44-1.jpg

And switched them out to the aluminum rock rings with OMF rock domes.

Also, airsoft pellets are the single greatest thing ever. My tires are balanced for the first time in over a year.

On the lookout for some beadlocks for the XK now. they go pretty cheap on Pirate with all the JK takeoffs

[07JeepXK]

Are those new tube fenders on the TJ?

[Holaday07 4.7]

Are those new tube fenders on the TJ?

Yessir. Switching eveything over the aluminum. New tube fenders are 6 lbs for BOTH. Between the bumper GTS, rear corners, fenders, rear bumper and rear flares, I have cut almost 700 lbs off the tj. plus it does not rust.

[07JeepXK]

Nice!

[pjmjr508]

very nice