no offense to anyone who may live in St. Louis, but Ive been there three times. Once in 1978, once in 2000 or so, and again in 2003. Cant say that I cared much for the place. I did go up in the arch and it was pretty cool and we went to the zoo, that was ok. But as far as the city itself goes, Ive seen better. Downtown looks to have had a lot of work and cleaning up and is probably ok but once we got out of downtown, ugh.