LMAO, same here!
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I am emailing them right now to test the 4 low before returning it to me after the recall is done.
I relayed my concerns & said that they will ensure that it is tested so I will not have any issues on the trail. I will get it back between monday & wed of next week. My parking break had broke & it will be 5 days to get the replacement parts. Plus they are still trying to find the issue I was with it dieing at a light from time to time & the won't start issues. The starting issue is most likely the starter wiring harness problem that a lot of us have had, told the guy that so will see what he does with the information.
They did say that they like the work I did on the XK.
What year is your xk pj?
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Well I got my notice yesturday but I have not called to schedule and appointment maybe I will call to go in Monday, I will let you know if I do and if there is any issues that I notice. :D
I got mine done last week. No problems so far; and the 4Lo still works.
Well I got mine done already about 2 weeks ago and everything is working the same.
I have not had time to get mine in yet.
Any of you guys with the recall done have any issues?
Keeping up on JF it looks like problems are popping up a week or so after....
I just had this done yesterday and checked 4lo before I left and it worked. I read some of that thread right after I got back and now I'm kicking myself for doing it. I'll be checking it everyday for the next week or so and I'll let you guys know what happens with mine.
had it done over a month ago & tested it a few times & no issues. Now by testing all I did was put in 4 lo & back into reg. I have not had a chance to wheel with it yet.
Tried again today and it still works and drives in 4Lo. If I have time this evening, I'll see if the ELSDs lock in gravel still.
Well I tried it today & as soon as I pulled the handle the error came on. Will be calling the dealership back on this.
Oh joy oh joy
Will update when have more info.
well I haven't taken it back in yet, It's my DD & unless I want to pay for a rental I am without a ride to work. I will get it in soon. I did a test thoe and found something very interesting concerning this. They are doing construction next to my house and stopped there on the way from work. They had a large mound of asphalt and I drove up a part of it, once I had one wheel off the ground and hanging in the air my TC light went off & it would not engage the front end at all. I have the QDII setup, if I read this right it acted like a 2WD with an open axle. Now the Serivce 4WD light did not come on until I hit the 4lo handle. This Sh*t sucks. I wonder can they undo the SW they loaded for the recall?
I'm surprised they haven't stopped installing the update yet.... I'm guessing there are so many people out there that don't check their 4wd that they're only seeing a fraction of a % of the issues.
I agree. I also forgot to mention that I noticed on my way home from work. There is 2 decent upward asphalt hills along the ride home, one of them there is a stop sign at the top to make a left. I noticed that when I lifted off the brake to go than it started to roll backwards until the gas pedal was applied. I would not compare it to rolling back as freely as if your were driving a stick shift. There is resistance there, but felt off just enough to catch my attention. I am not sure if that is tied to this recall, just feeling possibly the TC is not holding.
Your thoughts?
I'd say the rollback is unrelated unless the SW update decreased idle torque converter pressure....
My 2010 will always roll back on steep hills. I have not had the recall done.
Should also note that when plowing and trying to move a large pile of snow an additional foot or 2, I actually have more pushing power in 4hi than 4lo. So, when stopped and trying to get traction to push a pile of snow the added traction control in 4hi beats the low gearing and reduced traction control in 4lo.
The reason I had said anything was because I take this way home everyday for the last 3 yrs & it never caught my attention as it did yesterday so was not sure if related.
Maybe a difference in model year or a general glitch in mine.... I've always thought it rolled back on hills way easier than anything else I've owned.
I thought I got lucky...after months of having the N23 recall done on my Jeep, I finally have the dreaded "Service 4WD" error message. I have put it into 4Lo several times and used it. I even put it in 4Lo yesterday. Today I was messing around and tried putting it in 4Lo and got the message. Pretty bummed now. Now I have to figure out what to do...
Do you know anyone relatively local with a flashpaq? Id try clearing the codes and see if it works... this will rule out"coincidence" and put you in the same boat at everyone else :(
Unfortunately, no. If you know anyone in the Omaha metro area with one, let me know! I'm not even sure if it would work with my Jeep because Superchips doesn't support the CRD. I tried clearing it with a different code reader but it didn't even find any codes. It could be a coincidence, but it seems highly unlikely at this point :( plus, our Jeep has been regularly maintained. Looks like I may need to buy a junkyard FDCM that has the old software.
Superchips doesn't support CRD tuning, but that's independent from the OBD functions... your drivetrain has the same modules as the rest of ours so I don't see a reason it wouldn't work.
From what I've read if the update caused the problem all they need to do is reflash it until it works. Sometimes it's taken 3-4 times of reflash and then it seems to work.
You're right, didn't think about it like that. I don't understand why only the Superchips have been successful in clearing the codes.
This only works temporarily, it always comes back it seems. From what I understand, the only "solution" is to get a junkyard FDCM that hasn't had the recall performed on it or you can send your FDCM to blown7 on JeepForum and he can reflash it to the old software (he has StarScan).
Makes sense but I can't imagine the JKs using the same FDCM because they don't have ELSDs or the NV245 transfer case. Isn't the FDCM's only function to operate those systems? Does it even matter if they aren't the same FDCMs? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I'm just extremely intrigued by the QDII system. I've learned so much over the last few hours since finding out about my 4WD error.
Edit: Stupid question maybe, but does the JK even have an FDCM? It seems that the only reason our Jeeps have them is because it controls the NV245 and the ELSDs, which the JK has neither.
Honestly I havent looked into it that deep. When I found out I was able to pull drivetrain codes with the flashpaq I really didnt care how or why it was possible. ... the stars aligned and thats all I cared about :)
Haha that's true. I just need to figure out a solution. Right now, there just aren't any that are very appealing.
I still have not had mine done. I just got a reminder postcard from Chrysler a couple days ago. I was holding off hoping the update would get fixed. After seeing what is posted here, I have no plans to have any update done. I don't have remote start, and as far as I am concerned at the moment, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
My question to those of you that have been mechanics, if I take this to Jeep for repairs of something else, or to an independent mechanic, or even a quicky oil change place, are they under any obligation/liability to do the update or can I decline it?
As of now, do not get the recall done!! Only the dealer can do it I believe. You can decline the recall also, just make sure they know!
Yeah if you go to the dealer you have to specifically tell them not to perform the recall. Not all dealers will do it without your permission but they are allowed to.... I personally would avoid the dealers regardless.
I have no intention at this point in getting the recall done. But I have the lifetime powertrain warranty so they may not give me a choice if I go to the dealer for other work.
Same. I am not getting this done.
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I had it done & so far the fix was to have the Stealership flash the FDCM 3x's. Since then it has been working just fine. I have not tried since the 5th of this month tho because it has been on jack-stands waiting for the front pads to show up.
The recall was done on mine way back. What a fiasco. The service 4wd light always comes back, and I always had to clear it with the superchips. Also Without fail, every single time I hooked up a trailer and used tow/haul, it would trigger my service 4wd light. However, mine also had a service 4wd light message 6 months before I ever even had the recall done.