I do have the 1.5" spacers. Thanks for the input I'm going to order the stuff tonight or tomorrow along with a new rack.
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An 8.5 wheel has a centerline (0mm offset) at 4.75" backspace. Add 25mm offset, which is ~1" and that changes the backspace to 5.75".
Just a quick note.... if that is indeed the root cause and the wheels are 5.75" backspace as opposed to the 5.3" backspace they [seemingly incorrectly] claim, you probably have grounds to have them swap out the wheels for the JK series which *should* work better.
Superlift clearly states in their application notes:
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New wheel with maximum backspacing of 5.5" is required for installation. Factory spare can be used as a temporary spare in emergency situations.
They are definitely 17x8.5 inch wheels. I talked to AEV a while back because I noticed what they had posted online was incorrect. Whatever they posted for the offset didnt mathmatically add up to what they posted for the back spacing. If I recall corectly they said the offset was correct and they posted the wrong back spacing. I havent been on their website to see what its listed as lately. Ill check now.
EDIT: The website says +25 offset and 5.3 inches of back spacing. Obvioulsy they havent corrected it. Maybe next time trailbyfire has a wheel off he can just measure it. Or did he do that already and i missed it.
They still claim 8.5" wide, +25mm offset and 5.3" backspace: http://www.aev-conversions.com/shop/...-beadlock.html
I remember this came up a while ago because someone on JF was arguing with me, they claimed I didn't know what offset and backspace were because "according to AEV...." lol you fill in the rest
That's funny cause AEV admitted their website was incorrect.
No. Because a wheel that is 8.5 inches wide is really 9.5 inches total width. The 8.5 is measured from the inside (bead to bead). The total width of the wheel is from outside of the bead but they dont advertise that number because its the inside measurement is what matters when mounting a tire.
Yessir.
Any thoughts on what you're going to do?
I have a spare outer tie rod that I can experiment with. I may look at how much grinding I need to do to clear the wheel, then try to weld some external reinforcement.
The reason I went with the AEV wheels was because they advertised them as compatible with the SL. It would be great if AEV would send me a set of five JK wheels!
Its worth a shot IMO. Not only did they advertise the wheels as compatible with the SL kit, they also advertise an incorrect backspace where the actual backspace is too much per Superlifts own installation notes.... this interference causing tie rod damage is icing on the cake; if they have decent customer service they should at least try to make it right.... $.02
I think the JK pintlers would look better on your XK as they will sit out farther.
My Savegre's are the JK offset thankfully. Just went out and checked (its night or i'd get a pic for you) and on the rock in the front yard at full lock I have plenty of clearance.
Having said that i am now carrying spare inner and outer tie rods in my wheeling parts after talking to Coop :D.
While it was up on the lift again this week, I took some measurements with full droop in the front and it looks like the maximum backspace we can live with is about 5". Any more than that and you risk bending tie rods. AEV has promised to reimburse me for the wheels (yea!) so I'm going to get some steel wheels with a 5" backspace that I won't have to worry about nicking up on the rocks.
So they acknowledged the error and are planning on reimbursing you? You'll have to let us know if they follow through.... if so, that's good to know they're owning up to their mistake.
Based on AEV confirming the +25mm offset, he's currently running 5.75" backspace.
Test fitting is a good idea to be sure you'll clear.
The current backspacing is 5.7". While it was on the lift, I slid the wheel out about 3/4" (almost to the end of the studs) and it cleared easily at full droop.
I will see if Discount Tire has a wheel we can throw on it before I order a new set though--just to make sure.
So now what are you going to do? Order the AEV Wheels for the JK??
^^yup. That's like having 1.5" spacers on stock wheels.
Thats what I thought & I like the steel wheel idea as well. I have 3 bent stock rims & need to replace & thinking steel will hold up better to what I do.
Thats actually why i went with the AEV savegres, bent more factory rims than i can make into garden hose reels, and the steel wheels we get down here are very heavy compared. I havent even managed to get the Savegres any damage yet. I am running the JK offset too, the +10mm ones.
Well the ProComp wheels didn't fit. They hit the calipers, so because of time constraints (I leave for the Rubicon Trail on Wednesday), I ended up getting some MB allow rims which Discount Tire had in stock: 17x8.5" with a -6mm offset. They're not bad-looking. We double checked for clearance at full droop and no problems. I really didn't want alloy rims again but, what the heck, they were cheaper than the steel.
I must have missed this. I could have told you a 17x8 steel wheel with 4.5 inch BS wouldn't clear the caliper. I know this because I'm running them with my 33's and 1/4 spacers up front.
I ran a 1/4" spacer up front for awhile with no issues and that included a couple of wheeling trips. It held but I never did like it and got them off when I had the chance.
The MB TKO's seem to be working fine. We'll see how well they hold up on the Rubicon Trail.
Pictures please!!