X2 Bill. It would sure be nice to visit with you and Lee again.
Free concert Thursday night:
http://bvmusicfestival.com/2011-lineup/july-28-free/
Thats funny. When you go to Drew Emmitt's site it doesn't list them playing there. I guess it's because it's pro-bono.
Bad news guys, I am going to have to cancel out for this year. Work related. I really want to go, Next year it will have to be.
Also an FYI if you do have to cancel for any reason from the KOA they will charge a $10.00 fee to cancel
Sorry to hear you will not make it, Hopefully we will all meet you at another event.
Thank you sir & I am not happy about it. I do want to meet all of you and will do soon enough. You guys seem to be a great bunch of guys & looking to be spending some time relaxing & wheeling with all of you. Also I need to go back home to NJ and run some trails with the East Coast group too, they seem to be just straight nuts & yes I am talking about you Sal lol..
I am sorry you have to cancel. anything we can do to fix your work situation?...hehe...can you just bring your work along with you or something?
I was really counting on you and WanderingTs for an attempt at climbing up to Grizzly Lake on the day we were to hit Hancock pass/Alpine station, since you two guys said you wanted to try something a bit challenging. Now you are both out.
Hopefully you can make it again next time if it works out.
I guess since I brought it up.....
I will pose this question for anyone who is attending WCCC:
On the proposed trails list....WEDNESDAY is marked for an AM "easy/moderate" trail with an optional PM ride on one of the harder trails. I have been looking things over and researching some of the trails and I am thinking that the HANCOCK PASS/Alpine station will take longer than just a half day, or at least won't leave enough time to do both an AM and PM ride..........So I was going to see if there were any takers that would want to split off and climb up to Grizzy Lake since its one of the more difficult trails, and we will be going right past it on the Hancock pass.
I am not sure what the plan was to be that day once the group reached the Alpine tunnel, as far as how to get back to town.....but i suspect if anyone was game to go up to grizzly lake that we could get up and back down, then still catch back up to the group....since im guessing they would go up and back to Hancock lake. That's if there were any takers.
From what I have read and videos i have seen and things I have done in my own XK, i think this trail is possible with some armor, lift, tires, and careful lines.
I am just seeing if there is any interest in this. If the whole group wants to do this, then we could just make it part of that day's ride.
If there are people who will absolutely NOT attempt it, the group would stay on the main trail, and any takers could run up to the Grizzly lake and back down, then continue on, as planned.
This would only be 2.5 miles up and 2.5 miles back, so 5 miles total. its rated a 5/6. I think it would be hard enough to make it a challenge, but not something that's going to ruin your rig, if you have some armor and patience.
Anyone left in the mix want to discuss it?
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If you want to go up to fish for a little while you can count me in. From what I've read the fishing is good.
Here is a report from Trail Damage http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=55
Today Lee comes home from having her total hip replacement. She spent four days in the hospital and almost two weeks in a physical theraphy facility. She says she is planning on us making it to WCCC in Colorado. Will see what she feels like in a few weeks but it looks like we may be back on for it.
Well, I finally remembered to call to make a reservation for a tent site, but their computers are down due to a lightning storm. They'll call me back.
My vacation request still hasn't been officially approved, but my boss alluded to my "plannig vacations coming up soon" in a meeting earlier...
My reservation is official, but she couldn't give me the site number. She did note that I requested to be near the group.
OK, I am official again. I just reserved site 71 again. Lee is walking and says she will be ready by then. Our two grandchildren will be meeting us there. I am not sure if she will go bouncing around offroad or not. She and Casandra may go to the the aquatic center in town while Devin and I hit the trails or we may just goof off like the first WCCC.
It is great news to hear you are all back in. I am looking forward to the event.
I am up for the harder trail as well depending on how everything shakes out for the others.
I guess i just depends on how the days was going to go...meaning if the main trail to the tunnel/station was going to be a dead end and we were going to back track.
we could hit it on the way back out too.---that would keep is as an "AM/PM" run like planned.
It looks like once we are at the end we could jump on Williams pass to go back over the mountian and link up with the begining of hancock trail then head towards camp....the Grizzy lake takers could hit it then on the way out, while other could go on back to camp.
if you look...Williams pass and the last half of Hancock make kind of a loop.
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Welcome back Huey. Glad to hear Lee is doing so well!
As for the trail choices, I'm up for the Grizzly Lake, or making a loop of both.
One other trail that is near by....literally only a few miles from base camp is Chinaman Gulch, which is a well known trail. I am not sure if this one can be completed by our rigs or not. I know the low end rating is about a 4 since there are some bypasses for the hard stuff, and the top end is a 7. Of course those ratings can be relative and very from year to year. I do think its worth a look, and that I may try it the day after we do the "Fourmile area" in the morning. This trail is close by so IF it looks like it will ruin the rig and I wont be able to make it back home, I can always turn around...I at least want to drive there and see it. If anyone wants to go along and attempt it or a go as a far as possible, chime in! (or if you have first hand knowledge, ....sound off.....)
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Also, as you can see from the images "Carnage canyon" is right there too. This trail is very hard and is also a well known trail for serious crawlers. I will probably spend a few minute looking it over and maybe walk a ways into it, or if any others groups are running it, maybe watch and see how they do. Just an idea. Its so close to the camp (relative to other trails we will do) that I would be mad at my self for not at least checking it out.
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I will research the trail a little more too but you have peaked my interest.
Picking up the travel trailer on the way home today to begin packing for Colorado. I can't wait to get out of here on Friday!! If anyone is coming out of New Mexico on I-25 or across Colorado Rt. 160 to I-25 shoot me a pm and I'll get you my number. If you have road trouble or just want to stop by for a visit we'd love to have you. We're just south of Walsenburg, CO
Our place faces the East Spanish Peak, but still in the Sangre de Cristo chain. I'd like to try Lake Como rd. sometime.
few short videos of Grizzly Lake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVvVV...yer_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSPSbw2zOLo&feature=player_detailpage
Not enough ground clearance for the Commander.
With some skids and some rocker protection and a 2" lift and some really good spotting, an XK could do it. That was some poor wheel placement IMO.
Well after waiting till the very last second to finalize plans My family (wife, 7 year old daughter, almost 2 son) and I are coming to this years event, How can I not since it's only a couple hours away. Unfortunately we wont get there till late tues night, I was really looking forward to finishing Tincup but thats okay, take time to feed the chipmunks in St. Elmo. We booked a cabin site at the KOA months ago and we're really looking forward to it!
not trying to be discouraging but looking at the status of the trails listed some still have snow blocking them but they should be fine by the time we get there. Btw here is a link to bushducks for pass status.
http://bushducks.com/tripreps/passopen.htm
Hey, He charged me $400 for registration.
I was happy to do it to repay you for the Black Jeep Commander Camp Shirt you gave me.