Hey Niel, i see your "Springfield Armory" sticker. Is that what you carry?
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yeah. XD .45. its a little large, 4" barrel with 13 rnd magazine . im a little guy and i carry it in a crossbreed iwb holster and can conceal it pretty good. you really cant see it but its a little heavy especially with shorts. was thinking about a mini 1911 like a colt defender. i gotta have a .45. the only thing about the mini 1911 is it has half the round capacity as my XD.
i bought it new 4 years ago or so , comes with 2 - 13 rounders for $505.00 thats not pricey i dont believe.
They are all over cheaperthandirt.com for $500ish..
Springfield XD9 service model was my first pistol, I enjoy shooting it. I have a crossbreed holster for it, but ended up picking up a ruger LCP because I didn't feel like I could conceal the XD without printing. Unfortunately now that I'm back in CA, no carrying..
I go to the Ohio gun collectors show, they have makes it a bit more affordable .
I think the stuff is cheaper without serial numbers.
you can get em all day for $500ish new at a shop and in the low $400s used. i got mine at a show in Richmond.
Im stuck in my choice between a .40 & .45 cal. Do either one of those have a better accuracy than the other?
If you love the outdoors CA is great.
If you love guns CA sucks.
I love the outdoors more than guns, but guns is next on the list, so CA isn't my first choice. I would say of all the places I've lived and visited though that CA is pretty high on the outdoors list.
I can't speak from true experience, but I'd imagine .40 vs .45 as far is accuracy isn't much of a difference given the shooter is capable. And if you are talking personal protection it's even less of an issue since most personal protection issues are at ranges less than 20 feet (from what I've heard..) Thankfully I don't know that for a fact.
My comment about no serial numbers was in jest. You can't get a gun like that at the shows
Well I suppose you could get one, but that wasn't the point. I say this as someone opted to delete my comment.
I am with Caleb, I don't want something that could get me into more hot water....
But the gun shows do offer some lower prices.
I knew what you meant Don, but unfortunately we do have a ton of said weapons in my county. We have a bunch of idiots here that think they are mobbsters or something. This is my main reason for carrying, too many threats not to be ignored. I don't plan on getting into a shooting battle with anyone, I would rather walk (or run, lol) away from an accurance. But when it comes to protecting my family or friends, I will be ready.
I realize that the ammo will be more expensive, but I see it as ..... nothing is more expensive than my or my family's life. If I want to worry about price, then I'll just get a .22 to go to the range with and blast away. ;)
Has anyone ordered from cheaper than dirt? A firearm that is, I see you need to have it shipped to a FFA dealer.
Would another dealer want to accommodate you? Or charge a fee that would negate your savings?
I looked/shopped around online last night and DID find the XD .40 and .45 at around $500. I must of been looking in the wrong area or something. I also have been looking at just about every make/model out there so maybe I got my $$$ mixed up with a different brand. So far the XD anf the Glock are on my top list. Do you guys have any other suggestion in my $500 price range I should consider?
Sorry, i mis-read your comment, thanks for tje input. Im just wondering which caliber would be better for a ccw. I know it also depends on the person using it and pra tice woth your weapon. I guess my question is....who prefers what caliber and why?
^^^^^Im having a Don Issue today with big thumbs and small phone keys, LOL.
Let me see if I can shed some light on your thoughts here Caleb. You're basically looking for personal protection which as stated would put you with in 20' or so. Now ammo has little effect on accuracy at that range or I should say no effect at that range. When you start stepping out to 100+ meters then ammo is a concern but not with a hang gun obviously. The biggest factor in accuracy is the shooter of the weapon the second would be make model design quality of the firearm. Now at 20' or less I would say you probably can't shoot well enough to take advantage of a very expensive weapon. For personal defense stopping power needs to be a concern with reliability. You need to be able to get 3-4 shots of quickly and with general accuracy. For outstanding accuracy just get a revolver with a 6" barrel and blow the semiautomatics out of the water. Of course revolvers aren't cool there just effective so you'll probably go semiautomatic so I would look for reliability and capacity and stopping power. At close range big bullets moving slowly put people down with one shot not the smaller ones with some ridiculous FPS rating that burns threw people so they don't even feel it, trust me on this ones the delay from getting shot by these types of rounds and going down is long enough to have someone throw some rounds back at you. So pretty much it doesn't matter get a cheap one that holds big bullets and you'll be fine. Ruger makes good cheap reliable weapons there not flashy they just get the job done.
My suggestion on a CCW weapon is smaller is better. Find a weapon that you are comfortable with that is EASY to conceal and that you will not mind carrying EVERYWHERE with you. If the weapon is too big you will pick and choose when to carry and then you might as well leave it at home because the bad guy will strike the time you deceide not to carry anyway.
Also pick a weapon that you can manipulate without much thought, I love the Glock for that reason. You point the weapon and pull the trigger, you do not need to mess with the safety as it is built into the trigger.
Personally I prefer the 10mm over the .40, but the .45 is my favorite.
For Christmas I bought my wife a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact, not mini compact in 9mm. She received her CCW in November.
I see the XD's in .45 at every show I go to and they're all priced between $450-$600 depending if they were new or used. I'm kinda old school, but I still carry my dad's Browning Hi-Power.
When we were shopping for our first pistol (my wife enjoys shooting too) we went to the range and rented.. Turned out we both liked the feel of the XD best of the couple choices we had. So we rented one and shot for the day and left with a new one. I'd recommend doing the same if possible. Renting is usually only about $10 per pistol, and then you will know for sure if you like the way it handles or not. I personally feel that a service size pistol (in my case xd9 with 4" barrel) is too large to comfortably conceal. Can I do it? Sure, but not with my typical shorts and t-shirt attire. Just another thing to keep in mind.
Great suggestion. When purchasing a weapon, holster or accesories always wear the clothes you'd typically have on when you plan to carry. It's make for a better purchase.
7 months of the year I'm in shorts and tshirt the rest of the time is a fleece pull over and jeans.
So i can get away with a ccw in sub-compact or compact in .45?
I plan on eventually getting a full size for home defence and a shotgun as well. I will probably also get a .22 for the range and sport shooting.
Trying to gather as much info as possible before i do anything. I am also researching some classes that my girl can take with me and also the ccw classes.
Feel free to school me more on this subject, i appritiate everyones input and assistance.
I would go compact comfort is important. I don't know how many times I got sick of having a Beretta strapped to my leg wishing I could just throw it away LOL I hated carrying it and took it off when ever the opportunity arose. But then again carrying it 24\7 for 15 months could of been the problem. LOL
Yes, comfort is important to me as others have said, i will be in summer clothes all year round.
I like the glock because of it's trigger safety and ease of use. The XD also has the same thing now i believe and is a reloliable model.
What else should i consider(brands)? I have small hands so gotta keep tjat in mind.
I will be hitting the local ranges and renting different models to see what i feel is comfortable for me and the old lady, as others have recomended.
That's all you have to do is hit the range find what you're comfortable with. I would guess any brand model will fit your needs and skill level. It's protection not a shooting competition shooting so keep that in mind. If it can get threw one clip without jamming up I think it will get the job done.
Get down to a gun store and start picking up models. You really need to find something that fits well. Especially considering you said you have small hands. My wife has small hands and the compact Storm is a bit thick in the grip for good control. She handles it well, but a bit narrower would help. I changed the back strap and it helped a bit but still not great.
Sub compacts basically are just shorter in the grip. Meaning they hold a few rounds less.
I like watching the reviews of guns on youtube. Some are good, but most are just for entertainment.
I signed up for gunbroker.com and found they have very good information.
That's the way it was when I first got into pistols. Now I like my guns to hot cycle a couple hundred rounds without issues. You know, just in case I have a small invasion in my city.
I have a few really nice bolts we bought in the 70's. Depends on what you like and if you plan to reload your own brass. Just for fun I really like my Ruger 10-77 (bolt .22) and my 10-22 (semi .22). 2 years ago I bought a Ruger .204 in stainless and synthetic stock. Fun to shoot woodies at 250 yds.