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after a quick google from their site phone # it looks like they are an Israel based company. Shipping could get beefy.
Tel: +972 4 6511400
E-mail: [email protected]
gotcha, i was thinking the weight savings would be a plus but that only pays for soo much
They have a distribution center here in Arizona too.
I think their skids are more targeted towards rally style / desert / dunes type of offroading as opposed to trail riding & rock protection. Aluminum doesn't do so great sliding on jagged rock with 5000 lb coming down on it.
Saguaro offers an aluminum Transfer Case Skid
How much weight savings is there really? Guys here are mangling thick steel skids (belly guard comes to mind)... an AL skid of the same thickness would get trashed quicker so it either needs to be thicker or have more reinforcement which cuts into the weight savings.
If anything I'd think corrosion resistance is a bigger benefit especially for a trail rig that you don't clean after every run.
I guess someone needs to buy some aluminum skids so we can compare. :)
It depends on which blend of aluminum you use. At the same thickness it can be twice as strong as steel. But that is really expensive.
I was going to make an aluminum version of the SA skid plate but didn't think there would be a big enough market for me.
Lol..... Lets just say that I wouldn't pay $300+ for an aluminum skid without knowing what grade aluminum it is.
And either way, I'd still prefer a much cheaper / slightly heavier steel plate.... lol I don't want to worry about "damaging my expensive skids"!
With that said, I'd love for someone to get them so we can check them out. :)
I heard that aluminum don't slide to well over rock like steal does or maybe we discussed that hear before anyway I read somewhere.
Aluminum is softer and would gouge easeier I would think.
We talked about that here. Again it depends on the composition of the aluminum...
FYI I checked out S4XC's tcase skid. Its 3/16" 5052, but they don't state the temper condition. I'd guess its 1/4 hard since that's the most popular..... which puts it at about half the strength of general purpose steel. BUT its extremely corrosion resistant.
I've never scraped aluminum across rocks, but the way I see it a softer metal will allow jagged edges to dig in and grip better. But hell, if people are using them for competition I'd like to know what grade their using and how they hold up to impacts..... nothing beats trailside experience!
A lot of questions here in regards to the ASFIR4x4 products. I will try to get some of them clarified.
1. The factory and development is in Israel. As a large Military vehicle contractor in the European/Middle East market all of our products are designed to take incredible abuse.
2. Our Skid Plates are made from 1/4" 5052 Aluminum. The same material used for armored vehicles for over 100 years. I drop our 6000 lb. JK on rocks here in AZ and other than a dent and scratch here they are up to the task.
3. We are more expensive than other skid plates on the market, but that is because of the engineering, additional coverage we offer and some material cost differences.
4. The weight savings is half as much as a comparable steel set. On a JK the core 4 pieces net 85 lbs versus 180 - 195 lbs for steel.
5. Aluminum does not crumple like steel when you land on it. As the Modulus of Elasticity is much greater it will flex and return to shape much better. Plus if you happen to bend it a 5 lb. sledge on the neighbors driveway will bring it back to shape. As an added measure 5052 is a work hardenable material and when you pound it back into shape it gets stronger.
6. 5052 does not grab on rocks, the softer materialmolds around shapes and deflects. Not to say you will not get some scratches/gouges on them, but that just proves they are working.
7. Aluminum will not corrode. Everytime the material is scratched ot abraded it will regenerate a new layer of aluminum oxide to protect itself. So scratch and gouge away, it will not affect it.
8. We sell this line for the Daily Driver that wants to get his rig home on monday to get to work but likes to go out and play with the assurance that the vital components of the vehicle are well protected.
I will throw a special offer to one person on this forum that would like to try the skid plates, come wheeling with a few of us and then report back on what the final outcome was. As we are in Arizona I just ask that you can travel to a trail out here. Just send me a PM about your vehicle and what you think of our products (I do really like skeptics).
Thank you.
Armando Verdugo
Sales Manager
ASFIR4x4
16050 N. 76th Street #103
Scottsdale AZ 85260
[email protected]
480.247.9545 office
480.290.5993 mobile
I love getting info straight from the source, thanks!!
Also love the offer to test it out.... Jon, maybe that's a good opportunity for you and then even become a distributor? ??
I just learned a lot about aluminum.
Thank you guys!
We do what we can as we still are a newbie in the US and our products are somewhat unknown to a lot of people. Although ASFIR has been around for over 30 years in the rest of the world, breaking into the US market is an ongoing job.
http://s1131.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=JKinFJC.mp4
Here is a video of our JK out in the rocks, yes I use the products! Take a look at the gouges on the Gas Tank Skid. I slammed down hard and slid right off.
Thanks! After watching these guys beat on the Savvy Aluminum armor, I was wondering if there were options for our vehicles. We already drive a whale of a vehicle so i like the weight savings. I for one now am looking for a new lift option after adding all the 4xg armor because the front end dropped so much. Anyways, thanks for chiming in, and when will you be making a bar for the Commander like the one for the 100 series LC?
Lol the Jeep video wasn't the problem. Sal caught on right away!
The music in that video makes it sound like a porno hahahahaha... oh good times. I then had to add some play by play... "oh yeah, right there! Woooow look at that body!"
LOL Yup I missed that LOL
I added that song because my wife always says I am looking at "Truck Porn".
I sent them a volunteer e-mail and PM but have not heard back yet.
He is busy with his build thread on the other forum, lol.
I have no idea who you guys are referring too, I just threw that one out there.
hmmmm I might have to try this out i was planning on getting a 4XGuard Belly skid, my real question is will it bolt up to the factory skids?
Sounds like we have a few guys trying to take the plunge.... oooooh Armando......