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    A flash light will also give your position away making it loads easier to shoot you and also I can tell were you're looking because you will starring where ever the light is pointed. Racking the shotgun yes it is a unmistakable sound and will send most people running but so will you announcing you have a gun. The reason I think leaving chamber empty so you can rack it is a good idea because that pause it takes you to rack it is time for you to think and avoid mistakes. Lets face it most people breaking in your house think its empty and will split when you start moving. The home invaders will take a little more convincing to leave like starring down the barrel of a tricked out shotgun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal-XK View Post
    A flash light will also give your position away making it loads easier to shoot you and also I can tell were you're looking because you will starring where ever the light is pointed.
    And kills your night vision...


    Long ago and far away, I too had a shotgun for home defence. One night I was awaken by the sound of someone coming in the front door.
    I had a double barrel with a 16" barrel and bird shot. I braced myself against the corner of the door frame, barrel pointed down the hall
    waiting to see what was going to happen next.

    A light popped on in the living room.....don't know this for cerrtain, but I don't think too many burglars turn on room lights when they enter.

    A friend of mine starts walking down the hall, stops and see me, with my sawed off doublebarrel shotgun in hand, pointed at him.
    He freaked.....

    Several years later, we were to go hunting on a Saturday morning and he came to my place about 2 in the morning.....He opened the door, and yelled hey pirtle it's me.
    He reminded me of our earlier excitement, saying he knows better than to just walk in 'cause he has shotguns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal-XK View Post
    A flash light will also give your position away making it loads easier to shoot you and also I can tell were you're looking because you will starring where ever the light is pointed. Racking the shotgun yes it is a unmistakable sound and will send most people running but so will you announcing you have a gun. The reason I think leaving chamber empty so you can rack it is a good idea because that pause it takes you to rack it is time for you to think and avoid mistakes. Lets face it most people breaking in your house think its empty and will split when you start moving. The home invaders will take a little more convincing to leave like starring down the barrel of a tricked out shotgun
    This is true, but I would rather have the light and not shoot at shadows. I don't know about your house, but one quick sweep of the light will show my whole room quickly.

    Can you get a "wide angle" light? Something that lights up more area.

    I'd rather not chamber a round till I'm completely sure I heard an intruder, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cico7 View Post
    And kills your night vision...!
    You sleep with night vision goggles? LOL..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal-XK View Post
    . The reason I think leaving chamber empty so you can rack it is a good idea because that pause it takes you to rack it is time for you to think and avoid mistakes.
    Very good point, I totally agree with this statement.
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    They make police flashlights..Well i guess they are just flashlights..but they are a dual click. First click is just a standard beam. Second click is a strobe that will blind and confuse the bad guy.

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    As a LEO I can tell you that we do NOT enter a home or search an area with our lights on, we use them just to help us know where we are and identify subjects, if you use a light (and I suggest you don't) they you need one with a push button that you can turn on and off quickly and then move immediately after you have used your light so the bad guy does not know where you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamJEEP View Post
    Can you get a "wide angle" light? Something that lights up more area.
    yeah, we call that interior lighting, don't know what the people south of the (Ohio) border call it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamJEEP View Post
    You sleep with night vision goggles? LOL..
    you never know who is trying to slip in at night......so yeah....

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    If you need light which I still feel is advantage bad guy just turn the lights on. He's coming in from the outside street lights and headlights have his eyes in that middle ground another reason having your outside house lights on are good one more thing to kill his night vision. He is also entering an unfamiliar place as well. You are just waking up so your night vision should be good for what ever light is coming into your house which is advantage towards you plus you knowing the layout is another advantage to you. You know where he is by sound and can stalk a corner or intersections where he must come past based on his location advantage you again. Look we don't call the first person threw the door the dead man spot for nothing. I feel using lights takes most of those advantages away from you. The last time my alarm went off the first thing I did was get count of my family. Hit the wife check she's there kicked in my daughters room check she's there and still sleeping LOL My sons room not there ok pause situation changes kids under 3' tall no barrel exposure below my shoulders check. This all took about 4 seconds to accomplish about the amount of time a intruder needed to recover from the alarm making him deaf then give him another second or two to decide if he is leaving or continuing on at which point I'm ready for him. Weapon on safe finger off trigger that gives you time to think about what you're doing. That second it takes to flip the safety and transition to the trigger allows you to soak in your sight picture and make a good shooting decision.

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