That's a good point....
So my vote stands! Cut it out, move that winch back, smooth it up, then give me one
That's a good point....
So my vote stands! Cut it out, move that winch back, smooth it up, then give me one
Cut it out, I like the closer & cleaner look. Plus don't really see a down side, will be getting a bracket to use that will keep the needed support.
Would like to see pics once completed & how much. Would be nice to have this before Moab along a front guard.
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When you talk about modifying the frame, you are now modifying the basic engineering of the Jeep's design. That piece is the way it is for a reason...maybe not a good reason, or maybe you could make it better and stronger, but still I don't know why Jeep made it that way so changing it doesn't appeal to me.
Just as a marketing thing, I think you will limit your sales numbers to those folks much more hardcore than otherwise might be interested if you get into frame modifications. If I understand what you are asking, it also eliminates self-install for those of us who aren't up to home welding but can do most bolt on applications.
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The Getlost bumper required that we cut off the ends of the front bar, they served no purpose that I could determine anyway so I did not have an issue with that. The front cross bar is what the bumper is attached to and the hood latch but I do not see any real structural purpose for it other than a mounting point for those two items.
My design would be the center section and then replace it with something else, similar to what was done here:
Except instead of an overlay like the example shown, I would make a complete replacement piece that would connect on both sides to the actual frame structure and provide the mounting plate for the winch.
Last edited by Knappster; 12-07-2011 at 06:55 PM.
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Im with Jon on this...
As long as you're replacing that section with something as strong as, or stronger, to meet your purpose, there's no problem. I would hope that it is "bolt in" however.... if you limit the installation to require welding, that will definitely shy people away.
But structurally, stronger is better there.
Even though I intend to keep my Jeep for a long time, I don't ever like modifying my vehicles in a way that they can't be returned to stock.
And then put something stronger back in. And then why not plate the subframe in front? Is that posible? (btw, I'm leading up to an SFA swap with this last question)
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