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    Quote Originally Posted by 07JeepXK View Post
    My question is, how do you figure out the spring rate of a coil that has been cut down???
    Number of turns in the coil is one of the design parameters in a coil spring. If you know the spring rate and number of turns, you can calculate a given constant for that particular spring design which takes into account wire diameter, coil diameter and shear modulus. Once you know that constant (C) then spring rate k = C/N where N is the number of turns in the coil.

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    And that my friend is why I joined the Army after high school!!!
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    ^LOL. Well said.

    Just get some custom coilovers made for the front and rear and abuse the crap out of it, LOL.
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    I must admit i am not a fan of cut coils, but I also have access to getting custom coils made easily. The increase in spring rate can get harsh.

    I know Omelet cut the top coil off his OME HD and seems happy.

    The other thing to look at is the SL incorporates a preload spacer, which goes inside the strut assembly, and is usually good for around 1/2-3/4" (usually closer to 3/4) lift on the standard coil alone. I left these out so we could use the same length spring i previously had and not end up over 7" of lift. This keeps a large amount of flex and rebound abaility. Mine has settled at around 6.25" in the front, and the coils on a normal lift would be good for around 2.75" lift with the heavy bar, winch and batteries etc. If you could simulate the weight you will run on the front, and get a measurement for your current coils then add 3.5" you will be pretty close to your new lift height. Then go from there and try to work out a new spring, or trim down a lower rated coil.

    From memory my front coils are 300 rated and 19mm, which gives you an idea on my Jeeps weight... And the struts are valved 25% over the OME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by criket View Post
    ^LOL. Well said.

    Just get some custom coilovers made for the front and rear and abuse the crap out of it, LOL.
    LOL

    Coilovers are the long-term plan. Once i have the SL and can take some more accurate measurements i'll start spec'ing out a good set of coilovers; but in the mean time i'll have to come up with a configuration to run with that huge strut spacer, ugh.

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    What struts are you using valpacer?
    2007 4.7 Liter XK | Front Modified OME HD Lift | Rear 4" Superlift | JBA UCA's | Rusty's Rear Adjustable Track Bar | Rysty’s Adjustable Upper and Lower Rear Control Arms w/Heim Joints | Mickey Thompson Classic III 17x9 Wheels | 315/70R17 Goodyear Duratracs | Airflow Snorkel | Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler | Superchips Flashpaq | Mopar Skids | 4xGuard Belly Guard | American Rebel Rear Diff Cover | Rear Powertrax No-Slip | Front Electronic Locker | Rear Heat/AC Delete

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    Thanks for the info Dave!

    And yeah, i was already planning on leaving that pre-load spacer out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    LOL

    Coilovers are the long-term plan. Once i have the SL and can take some more accurate measurements i'll start spec'ing out a good set of coilovers; but in the mean time i'll have to come up with a configuration to run with that huge strut spacer, ugh.
    I won't be running the strut spacer! Got bigger plans
    2007 4.7 Liter XK | Front Modified OME HD Lift | Rear 4" Superlift | JBA UCA's | Rusty's Rear Adjustable Track Bar | Rysty’s Adjustable Upper and Lower Rear Control Arms w/Heim Joints | Mickey Thompson Classic III 17x9 Wheels | 315/70R17 Goodyear Duratracs | Airflow Snorkel | Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler | Superchips Flashpaq | Mopar Skids | 4xGuard Belly Guard | American Rebel Rear Diff Cover | Rear Powertrax No-Slip | Front Electronic Locker | Rear Heat/AC Delete

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07JeepXK View Post
    I won't be running the strut spacer! Got bigger plans
    You know.... this really is turning into the "Cold War" of TUJ.... Adam Vs Matt

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    But Adam always wins. Ask the gf she will tell you. Maybe I'll just change my plans and thown Dana 60s under the XK
    2007 4.7 Liter XK | Front Modified OME HD Lift | Rear 4" Superlift | JBA UCA's | Rusty's Rear Adjustable Track Bar | Rysty’s Adjustable Upper and Lower Rear Control Arms w/Heim Joints | Mickey Thompson Classic III 17x9 Wheels | 315/70R17 Goodyear Duratracs | Airflow Snorkel | Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler | Superchips Flashpaq | Mopar Skids | 4xGuard Belly Guard | American Rebel Rear Diff Cover | Rear Powertrax No-Slip | Front Electronic Locker | Rear Heat/AC Delete

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