Wheeling and Traction Control

[criket]

With QT1, it don't matter whether it's on or off. It sucks anyway, lol.

I just use the skinny pedal more liberally

[Matt]

With the 3.7L, i would imagine you'd want to turn off anything that cuts power to the engine if you start sliding offroad.

Though what do i know, with my 5.7L and QDII i can just leave it in "Drive" and do just about anything

[07JeepXK]

For about a grand we can make your WK QT II..... having 4-low would be a night and day difference!

[pjmjr508]

I might be off base but the info that was displayed might be for the QDII people where it will turn it off completely

[07JeepXK]

I might be off base but the info that was displayed might be for the QDII people where it will turn it off completely

Quite possible. I just know mine doesnt turn off completely unless i flip my toggle switch. Which is pretty much unless to me unless I were to get a rear locker. Only having two wheels with power in 4 low isnt fun.

[lekmedm]

The only way to completely disable the traction control on our vehicles is to pull the fuse or rig a switch like I have. Trust me on this. Holding down the button until you hear the chime only completely disables the ESP. The traction control still kicks in and applies the brakes to any tire that loses traction. Every time my jeep comes off the pavement I do this method and the traction control still kicks in. My jeep see's some sort of hardcore off roading on a monthly basis.



When I go to Rausch Creek, I put the XK in 4 low and hold down the traction control button until it displays ESP OFF. This only partially disables the traction control system. When a tire comes off the ground, it still applies the brakes to that wheel which kind of fools the open differential, sending power to the opposite wheel allowing you to continue moving forward. I do that method everytime I go offroading (4-low w/esp off) and have no issues climping rocks at RC.

I pulled the traction control fuse once while at RC on a blue trail and wasnt able to go anywhere. Every time a tire would lose traction it would just keep spinning and have no forward momentum. Basically you only have two wheels out of four spinning since the traction control doesnt kick in by applying the brake.

Well, ya gotta do what experience tells you that works. However, I don't understand why the "limited slip" function of the TCS system should be detrimental to crawling on the rocks. Folk instal LSDs and Detroits on purpose to get that functionality. When disabling the ESP system the limited slip part of the TCS is all that continues to work, and it seems to me that it would be to your advantage.

Just my 0.02

[Ross]

Would getting lockers in my 3.7L supplement well for not having 4 high/low?

[Sal-XK]

Would getting lockers in my 3.7L supplement well for not having 4 high/low?

Yes it would help but I would say the money spent on that would be better spent on swapping in nv245 TC.


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[07JeepXK]

Well, ya gotta do what experience tells you that works. However, I don't understand why the "limited slip" function of the TCS system should be detrimental to crawling on the rocks. Folk instal LSDs and Detroits on purpose to get that functionality. When disabling the ESP system the limited slip part of the TCS is all that continues to work, and it seems to me that it would be to your advantage.
Just my 0.02

I think were confusing eachother now...lol The TCS does continue to work when ESP is off and it does work to my advantage. Without the TCS you just have open front and rear differentials.

[lekmedm]

I think were confusing eachother now...lol The TCS does continue to work when ESP is off and it does work to my advantage. Without the TCS you just have open front and rear differentials.

Hehehe... Yeah, I'm confused by now as well, so let me take a step back and ask a question or two. The owners manual does not differentiate between the QTII (what you have) and the QDII (what I have), so I'll start with the assumption that ESP and TCS work the same for both.

Without using you toggle switch mod, do you get the "ESP OFF" message on the EVIC when you are in Park and hold down the ESP button for the 5 (or whatever) seconds like the manual says? If you follow this procedure, what is the effect when wheeling?