I never joined up, although sometimess I wish that I had. The biggest drawback to the military in my mind has always been financial. I doubt that without any college education that I could make close to six figures in the military although it has been a very real possibility in my civilian career. It has to be something that you really, really want to do for yourself and your country. Sal and I talked about it a little around the campfire and I saw the he joined because he felt it so much in his heart and soul that he just had to do it even though he wasnt 18 , more like pushing 30 I think.