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[06JeepXKHEMI]

I would have to agree to a certain point, as we saw at Whispering Pines, the QDII made it easier to get thru the same things your QTII did even less lift and A/T tires.. I also would say we dont really have much to say in comparison of whether the QTII cant do what QDII can cause we are limited to lift, tire clearance and lack of trails that we could really see both pushed to its limits or we just havent hit them yet... Id like to see a comparison done of some tough trails out west where the QDII is pushed hard and see if the QTII could keep up...

[07JeepXK]

I would have to agree to a certain point, as we saw at Whispering Pines, the QDII made it easier to get thru the same things your QTII did even less lift and A/T tires.. I also would say we dont really have much to say in comparison of whether the QTII cant do what QDII can cause we are limited to lift, tire clearance and lack of trails that we could really see both pushed to its limits or we just havent hit them yet... Id like to see a comparison done of some tough trails out west where the QDII is pushed hard and see if the QTII could keep up...

We might see things a little differently, but i kind of thought my XK handled a little better in the mud at whispering pines then yours did, mostly due to the tires though. You have all terrains and I have mud terrains. But keep in mind, both trips I was taking it extremely easy with the XK due to my transfer case issue. There were a few times you almost got stuck that I walked right through. And that Is why I love my MT/R's!!!

[06JeepXKHEMI]

Dont get me wrong you werent struggling at all and have alot more experience than I do, but you even said on that a few spots the QDII did everything with out a problem, it was my tires that was holding me back, hell they turned to drag radials in the mud!!

[06JeepXKHEMI]

There was a hill climb, not the one my dad murdered but another one where you went up got out and watched me coming up and said damn QDII didnt even struggle up that with A/T tires, thats what I was referring to..

[07JeepXK]

Dont get me wrong you werent struggling at all and have alot more experience than I do, but you even said on that a few spots the QDII did everything with out a problem, it was my tires that was holding me back, hell they turned to drag radials in the mud!!

There was a hill climb, not the one my dad murdered but another one where you went up got out and watched me coming up and said damn QDII didnt even struggle up that with A/T tires, thats what I was referring to..

Yeah your tires werent the best in the mud that day. But no worries, I see you running Mud Tires next time around!!!

As far as the hill climb your right. The QD II doesnt even struggle because it just goes to full lock. But the QT II will still make it up the same hill just with a little more patience and tire spinning.

[Core XK]

Yeah I think everyone will have a different opinion based off what they drive or their experiences. Based off the reading I have done on these forums it definitely seems QDII is the most superior jeep 4x4 system; however, I am 150% fine with QTII Hemi....I found the "slippage" quite fun and challenging :P it seems as long as you get more experienced with the QTII and learn the system then you can get through anything that QDII will (Same XK setup as mentioned)