I do like the toyo at 2, looks like a great tire. Problem is with my 18" wheels there are not many options when it comes to tires. Most are special order, such as the toyo and the Goodyear silent armour. From what I have seen the grappler lasts about as long as all the other common AT tires. I really don't expect more than 40-50k out of any off road tire. Although I did get 48k out of my toyo mt. I figure the nitto can't be too far off from the toyo since they are both the same company.

I thought the flames would make it look tougher anyway. It's the family cruiser, I just need it to be better than bald Pirelli scorpions on it now.