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    The begginers' handgun.......??

    What's a good "beginners" handgun to use? I've been wanting to get my girlfriend and myself some concieled weapon permits and buy our first handguns. Purchased a couple of magazines for reviews but, there are so many makes out there, I don't know where to begin.
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    The best thing to do is find a local indoor range that rents weapons for use on the property and try out a few handguns. I personally like the Glock and would recommend she try one starting with the 9mm and move up in caliber until there is too much recoil for her (I like the 357).
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    X2 on a range with rentals. She will prob want to stay with a 9mm, but she will have to hold and feel some different one to find one that fits her hands. Glocks are good but they dont feel right in my hand ( I have small hands ). I carry a Springfield XD .45. It has a 4" barrel and I carry it in a Crossbreed Supertuck holster. Even with my small framed body of 125 lbs wet, you would never know I had a full frame pistol under my shirt.
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    A very simple beginners gun would be most double action revolvers. They're simple and safe, especially when compared to semi-autos. Most people who get accidentally shot are from someone who thinks an auto is empty, when it actually has a round ''up the pipe.'' (A chambered round, which stays even with the magazine removed)

    A DA revolver fires by just pulling the trigger, with a hard pull for the most part, (For short range self defense mode) or you cock the hammer first then have a light trigger pull. (For better accuracy) No magazine to load up, no pulling a slide back to chamber a round first, no worrying about releasing the safety(s) etc.

    A good conceal weapon is a Charter Arms Bulldog. The five shot .44 is a hand cannon. They're a short barrel that you'd expect Mickey Spillane P.I. to pack. The .38 or .357 might be better for your girlfriend to handle, as the light .44 kicks like a mule.
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    x3 on the rental. But beware, that's how I got hooked on 1911's...

    I just got my wife a Taurus PT138 - it's a small frame semi-auto in .380ACP. She never even held a gun before this one. She likes it. A .380 is about the same size as a 9mm round but less recoil; though arguably not a good defensive round. I am helping my neighbor's aunt select a gun as well and we are leaning towards the Taurus 709 Slim. Also a light, small semi-auto in 9mm. It is hard to go wrong with a decent revolver though.

    How about a Thompson .445 Supermag? Single shot, but that's all you need!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knappster View Post
    The best thing to do is find a local indoor range that rents weapons for use on the property and try out a few handguns. I personally like the Glock and would recommend she try one starting with the 9mm and move up in caliber until there is too much recoil for her (I like the 357).
    That's a good idea Knappster, I'll have to look around and find the nearest one to me. I've heard good things about the Glocks, I will deffinately look into those. Thanks



    Quote Originally Posted by NeilSmith View Post
    X2 on a range with rentals. She will prob want to stay with a 9mm, but she will have to hold and feel some different one to find one that fits her hands. Glocks are good but they dont feel right in my hand ( I have small hands ). I carry a Springfield XD .45. It has a 4" barrel and I carry it in a Crossbreed Supertuck holster. Even with my small framed body of 125 lbs wet, you would never know I had a full frame pistol under my shirt.
    Good to know, thanks NeilSmith.


    Quote Originally Posted by Adondo View Post
    A very simple beginners gun would be most double action revolvers. They're simple and safe, especially when compared to semi-autos. Most people who get accidentally shot are from someone who thinks an auto is empty, when it actually has a round ''up the pipe.'' (A chambered round, which stays even with the magazine removed)

    A DA revolver fires by just pulling the trigger, with a hard pull for the most part, (For short range self defense mode) or you cock the hammer first then have a light trigger pull. (For better accuracy) No magazine to load up, no pulling a slide back to chamber a round first, no worrying about releasing the safety(s) etc.

    A good conceal weapon is a Charter Arms Bulldog. The five shot .44 is a hand cannon. They're a short barrel that you'd expect Mickey Spillane P.I. to pack. The .38 or .357 might be better for your girlfriend to handle, as the light .44 kicks like a mule.
    I agree, I was leaning towards a DA revolver till my girl said she wants a semi-auto. She said she wanted a pink one...................LOL........I just shook my head. Thanks adondo


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    x3 on the rental. But beware, that's how I got hooked on 1911's...

    I just got my wife a Taurus PT138 - it's a small frame semi-auto in .380ACP. She never even held a gun before this one. She likes it. A .380 is about the same size as a 9mm round but less recoil; though arguably not a good defensive round. I am helping my neighbor's aunt select a gun as well and we are leaning towards the Taurus 709 Slim. Also a light, small semi-auto in 9mm. It is hard to go wrong with a decent revolver though.

    How about a Thompson .445 Supermag? Single shot, but that's all you need!
    I'll have to look those up and do some research. I deffinately want her to have a light "pocket" sized gun that she can conciel easily. Thanks brendon
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    Gander Mountain is selling a S & W .40 w/laser for $399..........Is this a good deal? I did a little research on this gun and have gotten mixed reviews. I know that the earlier versions had issues jamming, ect. but, all the reviews I've read about the current model are praising this gun. Is a .40 cal better than a 9mm as far as accuracy and power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamJEEP View Post
    Gander Mountain is selling a S & W .40 w/laser for $399..........Is this a good deal? I did a little research on this gun and have gotten mixed reviews. I know that the earlier versions had issues jamming, ect. but, all the reviews I've read about the current model are praising this gun. Is a .40 cal better than a 9mm as far as accuracy and power?
    I do not know anything about the gun so I cannot tell you if it is a good or bad weapon...

    Your second question: Is a .40 cal better than a 9mm as far as accuracy and power? accuracy is solely dependent upon the shooter, a 9mm & 40 mm are exactly the same accuracy as each other, the question is can the shooter be accurate with both guns? to answer that she will have to shoot the guns. The 9mm will have far less recoil and therefore be faster to regain target and be more accurate for someone with little strength or experience.

    As to power, the 40 is a much more powerful gun than the 9mm but compensation can be made by adjusting the type of ammo you leave in the gun. must people practice with cheap ammo and then carry with a different type depending on it's purpose. I carry with hollow-points but I do not waste money by shooting that for practice.

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    I'll have to look those up and do some research. I definitely want her to have a light "pocket" sized gun that she can conciel easily. Thanks brendon
    You really want a gun that hides away? How about an American Arms .22 magnum?


    It's a little mule to fire, but you'll get a 6 foot diameter fireball out the front when it does. The 'pop' is pretty massive too. A few cops I know pack these for secondary backups, as the .22 magnum does damage. It's a ''belly gun'' though, forget about aiming for accuracy. My mom has one of these little stainless steel gems. One cop I know did have to use one in a bad situation years ago, and the perp got tore up pretty bad.

    I also have one, a short barrel, it makes a great boot gun. The recovery is a bit slow after firing, because it kicks bad, and there's not much grip to hang onto. I also have a Freedom Arms version, but the quality is not as high, and the grip's even smaller and black bakelight. It's even harder to recover after a shot. (It ends up pointing straight up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knappster View Post
    I do not know anything about the gun so I cannot tell you if it is a good or bad weapon...

    Your second question: Is a .40 cal better than a 9mm as far as accuracy and power? accuracy is solely dependent upon the shooter, a 9mm & 40 mm are exactly the same accuracy as each other, the question is can the shooter be accurate with both guns? to answer that she will have to shoot the guns. The 9mm will have far less recoil and therefore be faster to regain target and be more accurate for someone with little strength or experience.

    As to power, the 40 is a much more powerful gun than the 9mm but compensation can be made by adjusting the type of ammo you leave in the gun. must people practice with cheap ammo and then carry with a different type depending on it's purpose. I carry with hollow-points but I do not waste money by shooting that for practice.
    I agree that accuracy is up to the shooter but, it also depends on the gun, right? Is a 9mm bullet more "user" friendly than a .40 apc?

    Also, wouldn't you want to practice shooting with the bullets you intend to use? I understand the $$$ side of using cheaper ammo to practice but, does the weapon react differently with different ammo?
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