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    Quote Originally Posted by IamJEEP View Post
    I agree that accuracy is up to the shooter but, it also depends on the gun, right? Is a 9mm bullet more "user" friendly than a .40 apc?

    Also, wouldn't you want to practice shooting with the bullets you intend to use? I understand the $$$ side of using cheaper ammo to practice but, does the weapon react differently with different ammo?
    the 9mm has a lot less recoil so it is easier and faster to get back on target, if you are in a fight for your life staying on target is VERY important. A big bullet can do more damage but if you miss your target and they hit you before you get back on target then the larger ammo was a waste of your life.

    I do practice with hollow-point but if you practice every month as you should you will find that you do not need to shoot 100 rounds of expensive ammo every month when the cheaper stuff will train you just as well. Then load up your protection ammo and feel safe.
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    Sounds like a fun surprise for someone coming at you but, my lady wouldn't be able to handle such a kick back.

    The flash alone will probably scare the crap out of them. Lol..

    Quote Originally Posted by Adondo View Post
    You really want a gun that hides away? How about an American Arms .22 magnum?


    It's a little mule to fire, but you'll get a 6 foot diameter fireball out the front when it does. The 'pop' is pretty massive too. A few cops I know pack these for secondary backups, as the .22 magnum does damage. It's a ''belly gun'' though, forget about aiming for accuracy. My mom has one of these little stainless steel gems. One cop I know did have to use one in a bad situation years ago, and the perp got tore up pretty bad.

    I also have one, a short barrel, it makes a great boot gun. The recovery is a bit slow after firing, because it kicks bad, and there's not much grip to hang onto. I also have a Freedom Arms version, but the quality is not as high, and the grip's even smaller and black bakelight. It's even harder to recover after a shot. (It ends up pointing straight up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knappster View Post
    the 9mm has a lot less recoil so it is easier and faster to get back on target, if you are in a fight for your life staying on target is VERY important. A big bullet can do more damage but if you miss your target and they hit you before you get back on target then the larger ammo was a waste of your life.

    I do practice with hollow-point but if you practice every month as you should you will find that you do not need to shoot 100 rounds of expensive ammo every month when the cheaper stuff will train you just as well. Then load up your protection ammo and feel safe.
    I see what you are saying. I'll start her off with the 9mm and let her decide to "upgrade" to a bigger caliber when she feels ready and comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJeepZJ View Post
    Then I drove her hard for about 45 mins.

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    My wife has a Bernerdelli 60 which is a European 9mm short...or a 380 if you're State side. It's the perfect fit for her hand, but being 30 or so years old and being an import means it's not easy to get parts for and it jams due to a loose lower plate on the magazine. A $35 fix, but it wasn't easy to find companies that make the part.

    I found lots of information here:
    http://thefiringline.com/forums/index.php

    I recommend like the other guys, go to a range that rents guns and spend the time sorting through what she wants versus needs and what will ultimately work for her.

    There are lots of places that offer beginner training/safety training that's helpful for even those of us who have years of experience can benefit from. I hope to get the wife into one soon.

    I too will be trying out some firearms soon as I'd like to have something to use to get my CHL.

    Let us know what decision you make. I wouldn't recommend a Bernerdelli for anyone, unless you'd just like to have a good looking Italian pistol that's easy to handle and fires well.

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    I will keep reporting back on this thread as we go along. I'm mostly in the research stage right now so, please excuse all the "noob" questions. Lol.

    I like anything that's older, ie: cars, bikes, planes, ect. My only worry is that I might start collecting older and unique guns and such. Lol. So, send over that Italian Bernerdelli! Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by wrenchin hobo View Post
    My wife has a Bernerdelli 60 which is a European 9mm short...or a 380 if you're State side. It's the perfect fit for her hand, but being 30 or so years old and being an import means it's not easy to get parts for and it jams due to a loose lower plate on the magazine. A $35 fix, but it wasn't easy to find companies that make the part.

    I found lots of information here:
    http://thefiringline.com/forums/index.php

    I recommend like the other guys, go to a range that rents guns and spend the time sorting through what she wants versus needs and what will ultimately work for her.

    There are lots of places that offer beginner training/safety training that's helpful for even those of us who have years of experience can benefit from. I hope to get the wife into one soon.

    I too will be trying out some firearms soon as I'd like to have something to use to get my CHL.

    Let us know what decision you make. I wouldn't recommend a Bernerdelli for anyone, unless you'd just like to have a good looking Italian pistol that's easy to handle and fires well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJeepZJ View Post
    Then I drove her hard for about 45 mins.

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    http://www.shootpetoet.be/bernardelli60L.jpeg

    This is what it looks like. Slightly different grip on the thumb side.

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    You mentioned she wants a pink gun. I got my wife's Taurus PT138 at Gander Mountain because the pink model was exclusive to them. I bought both the pink handgun and a pink Davey Crickett .22 rifle (for my oldest daughter) the same day. There was something empowering about leaving the store with two pink guns!

    I'll get pictures up in a little bit for you.

    As for older guns and cost of repair, don't get me started. I have a couple OLD Walthers in my care that need some lovin' - it's not going to be cheap.

    ETA: I go to the range once or twice a month and mostly shoot the cheap Winchester White Box (WWB) but every third month or so, I cycle through my defensive ammo as well.
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    Here are some pics. The top one is my carry piece - a 1911 with 3" bbl and the lower is the wife's Taurus



    and then just for some fun a Luger, a pair of Walthers - PPS and P38, and Ruger Super Redhawk .44mag - my bear gun:






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    Brendon, what's the manufacturer and model number of that 1911??? I've always been a fan of them and that looks perfect for what I'd be doing with it.

    However, I am also salivating over these two HK's : http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_produ...ct_general.asp and http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_produ...pc_general.asp

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    Nice collection brendon, showed my girl the pink one and she loves it. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJeepZJ View Post
    Then I drove her hard for about 45 mins.

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