I agree about open carry in CA - why bother if it can't be loaded...

In WI we have permitless open carry (fully loaded, but with lots of restrictions to where one can go) but no means to legally conceal; although the courts have ruled repeatedly that in certain circumstances and places, personal protection trumps the ban on concealed carry. At least our current legisative branch and governor say they will support concealed carry as soon as someone actually proposes a bill. Hopefully it will be permit-less open AND concealed carry similar to Arizona, Alaska, Wyoming, Vermont, and a number of other states soon. Constitutional Carry coming soon to a state near you.

I do have a Utah permission slip which allows me to conceal in 33 other states, just not my own!