I was talking to Neal at ECC and I was telling him about all the black widow's I find around my house and how big some of them are. I usually only kill them if there in the house other then that I will leave all spiders alone. I feed a banana spider in my yard for months it finally got so big my wife had it killed while I was at work Anyway this black widow I came across today was so big I had to kill just because the amount of venom it could give a human it was to risky. There usually pretty small spiders but this one was insane. The belly was about as wide and as long as my thumb nail just ridiculous.