Springfield Armory

[IamJEEP]

I go to the Ohio gun collectors show, they have makes it a bit more affordable .
I think the stuff is cheaper without serial numbers.

Yeah we have a ton of those special non serial # weapons around here. No way do i want one of those, who knows what those have been involved in.

[cico7]

Yeah we have a ton of those special non serial # weapons around here. No way do i want one of those, who knows what those have been involved in.

My comment about no serial numbers was in jest. You can't get a gun like that at the shows
Well I suppose you could get one, but that wasn't the point. I say this as someone opted to delete my comment.
I am with Caleb, I don't want something that could get me into more hot water....
But the gun shows do offer some lower prices.

[HueyPilotVN]

My comment about no serial numbers was in jest. You can't get a gun like that at the shows
Well I suppose you could get one, but that wasn't the point. I say this as someone opted to delete my comment.
I am with Caleb, I don't want something that could get me into more hot water....
But the gun shows do offer some lower prices.

Don,

Are you getting into trouble again. Guess I will have to go back to calling you Psycho again. I think sometimes your sense of humor is just a little too subtle for the Internet......lol

[IamJEEP]

My comment about no serial numbers was in jest. You can't get a gun like that at the shows
Well I suppose you could get one, but that wasn't the point. I say this as someone opted to delete my comment.
I am with Caleb, I don't want something that could get me into more hot water....
But the gun shows do offer some lower prices.

I knew what you meant Don, but unfortunately we do have a ton of said weapons in my county. We have a bunch of idiots here that think they are mobbsters or something. This is my main reason for carrying, too many threats not to be ignored. I don't plan on getting into a shooting battle with anyone, I would rather walk (or run, lol) away from an accurance. But when it comes to protecting my family or friends, I will be ready.

Based on hoaxci5's comment and my limited experience, consider cost and availability of ammo when making that decision.

I realize that the ammo will be more expensive, but I see it as ..... nothing is more expensive than my or my family's life. If I want to worry about price, then I'll just get a .22 to go to the range with and blast away.

[cico7]

I realize that the ammo will be more expensive, but I see it as ..... nothing is more expensive than my or my family's life. If I want to worry about price, then I'll just get a .22 to go to the range with and blast away.

You stated you were debating between .40 and .45. I noticed some ammo is more easily available than others.
My suggestion was that you make that part of your decision. Should you decide to go to a .22, then my reference is irrelevant.

[IamJEEP]

Sorry, i mis-read your comment, thanks for tje input. Im just wondering which caliber would be better for a ccw. I know it also depends on the person using it and pra tice woth your weapon. I guess my question is....who prefers what caliber and why?

[IamJEEP]

^^^^^Im having a Don Issue today with big thumbs and small phone keys, LOL.

[Sal-XK]

Let me see if I can shed some light on your thoughts here Caleb. You're basically looking for personal protection which as stated would put you with in 20' or so. Now ammo has little effect on accuracy at that range or I should say no effect at that range. When you start stepping out to 100+ meters then ammo is a concern but not with a hang gun obviously. The biggest factor in accuracy is the shooter of the weapon the second would be make model design quality of the firearm. Now at 20' or less I would say you probably can't shoot well enough to take advantage of a very expensive weapon. For personal defense stopping power needs to be a concern with reliability. You need to be able to get 3-4 shots of quickly and with general accuracy. For outstanding accuracy just get a revolver with a 6" barrel and blow the semiautomatics out of the water. Of course revolvers aren't cool there just effective so you'll probably go semiautomatic so I would look for reliability and capacity and stopping power. At close range big bullets moving slowly put people down with one shot not the smaller ones with some ridiculous FPS rating that burns threw people so they don't even feel it, trust me on this ones the delay from getting shot by these types of rounds and going down is long enough to have someone throw some rounds back at you. So pretty much it doesn't matter get a cheap one that holds big bullets and you'll be fine. Ruger makes good cheap reliable weapons there not flashy they just get the job done.

[LWM]

My suggestion on a CCW weapon is smaller is better. Find a weapon that you are comfortable with that is EASY to conceal and that you will not mind carrying EVERYWHERE with you. If the weapon is too big you will pick and choose when to carry and then you might as well leave it at home because the bad guy will strike the time you deceide not to carry anyway.

Also pick a weapon that you can manipulate without much thought, I love the Glock for that reason. You point the weapon and pull the trigger, you do not need to mess with the safety as it is built into the trigger.

[hoaxci5]

When we were shopping for our first pistol (my wife enjoys shooting too) we went to the range and rented.. Turned out we both liked the feel of the XD best of the couple choices we had. So we rented one and shot for the day and left with a new one. I'd recommend doing the same if possible. Renting is usually only about $10 per pistol, and then you will know for sure if you like the way it handles or not. I personally feel that a service size pistol (in my case xd9 with 4" barrel) is too large to comfortably conceal. Can I do it? Sure, but not with my typical shorts and t-shirt attire. Just another thing to keep in mind.