Rock Sliders

[XK N00b]

Also, looking at the pictures, since the boxed frame does not sit flat and level it would seem to me that it would minimize surface area contact on rocks and cause less friction dragging over them

[LWM]

I will go back again tomorrow when they are finished and paint them before the are installed, I will get some photos for sharing and then install them for Camp Commander.

[Doc in AZ]

You guys are so funny

These are like a mini boatside rocker. The rock sliders are at an angle, the bottom of the truck is at an angle, so the rock slider sits against the bottom of the body and touches it. This does a couple things, one the rock slider is supported all the way from front to rear by the unibody. This is much better than a rock slider that is fastened to the frame and has a long stanchion that is easily bent. The whole passenger side of this jeep is tweaked upwards from sliders that bent. Secondly the unibody is now also being supported by the rock slider, this helps reduce, but will not eliminate, some of the body twist the unibodies are known for

[Matt]

I am interested in seeing where this goes. Also, as with all of the other great mods being worked on, looking forward to more pictures

I will say this, I like how 4XG mounts theirs as well. They basically clamp it to the entire pinch weld with through bolts and a thick steel L-bracket on the other side. Pinch welds on these vehicles are very strong.. and with a setup like this you'd have to bend the entire pinch weld at the same time, which I dont really see happening.



In any case, i'm glad to see another option! Especially since I really like the steps and added protection from Doc's. It's going to be a very tough choice when i'm ready to put sliders on! (and that's a good thing)

[HueyPilotVN]

Jon said I could post these.

[Omelet]

i just saw a set of the 4x sliders today, i have always liked how they were a formed piece and had a very stock look to them, but... they only rivet inside the door sill & they are just aluminum rivets at that. i think riv-nuts would be a much stronger alternative.

I know Matt already posted up a pick of the underside of the 4xGuard rails, but I thought I would add to it.

The rivets are not what is holding the rails on. There are 6 grade 8 bolts per side that go through the pinch weld using holes that are already there and then through the included L bracket.

This is what the rocker looks like after removing the plastic:



As you can see after the pinch weld the rocker angles up then cuts in where it meets up with the door openings. The sliders cup over this entire area. You can actually place them over the rocker and they will stay in place (makes instal quite easy). Then you drill small holes into the top of the rocker and install the aluminum(noncorrosive) rivets. At least that is what is included now that the cost of the zinc coated screws went up in price.



Don't get me wrong, I LOVE that other companies are making products for us. And I have nothing against the other designs. I just don't want everyone thinking that the 4xGuard rail might fall off because they are only installed using aluminum rivets.

[LWM]

Thanks for the clarification!

[Matt]

Sorry i didnt make that very clear in my post... i meant to point out the fact that they're through bolted with high grade bolts, not just aluminum rivets. There is no question in my mind that they are a very solid product based on how they're mounted.

[Tymac]

Ask p@55w0rd how well that mounting system worked for him. He has the pics to show what happened.

In all honesty they can take a light hit and sliding, but the crud I throw and have thrown at them on the last trip would have wadded them right into the fender and bent the snot out of the rocker mounting area. Huey's grandson took a pic of my sliders suspending my truck off the ground when I ran it fender high between 2 boulders on Chinaman Gulch. I wouldn't have done it with any that mount to the top of the rocker panel.

Just my .02, but I like the way mine and Knappster's mount.

[ped4599]

Ask p@55w0rd how well that mounting system worked for him. He has the pics to show what happened.

In all honesty they can take a light hit and sliding, but the crud I throw and have thrown at them on the last trip would have wadded them right into the fender and bent the snot out of the rocker mounting area. Huey's grandson took a pic of my sliders suspending my truck off the ground when I ran it fender high between 2 boulders on Chinaman Gulch. I wouldn't have done it with any that mount to the top of the rocker panel.

Just my .02, but I like the way mine and Knappster's mount.

I did it with 4xG sideguards. Also dropped off the entry point to Grizzly lake using the sliders...with no issues other than paint tranferred tot he rocks.I suppose it could pull out of the rocker panel but would need an extreme hit. I know Trialbyfire had this issue from befor WCCC but i am not sure what he did to cause it.