HP to Dollars.....is it worth it.?

[IamJEEP]

I totally understand that speed costs money, im just seeing if that was a good number and if it is worth it. Not looking for a dragster here, thats what my other vehicle will be for. Im just looking for a little more (noticable) umph.

So Stroke, you don't think its worth getting the Jet Chip? Did the chip help with mpg any?

[strokeZ]

Hard to say on MPG. I installed it the same weekend as the RR lift and 265's from stock. Of course the stage 1 requires 89 octane so that mixes things up too. I can tell you that going with larger tires I did not see a decrease in MPG. Now that I have the 4" w 285's I am seeing a decrease in MPG - but that's expected. With the RR lift / 265's I could average mid 17's on the highway and around 14 in the city - not bad at all. Now I am getting 16's HWY and 12 city with the 4"/285's

[Matt]

When i look at programmers, i ignore the HP and Tq claims... they're all inflated figures anyway.

You're not going to feel a 10 HP difference, what you will feel (which makes it seem more powerful) is quicker throttle response, firmer shifts, and adjusting shift points... and some other things that do help the engines run more efficient if you have the ability to adjust the fuel trims and such. Unless you're doing other mods that require tuning to adjust for (such as cam swaps, forced induction, etc), the actual power gains are usually a moot point.

So IMO, look at a $$ Vs. Features of the programmer. Get the one that lets you adjust the most in terms of tires/gears/shift points/etc. Almost all of the programmers will increase the throttle response in their "canned" tune since that's probably the #1 SOTP's improvement in driveability.

[IamJEEP]

When i look at programmers, i ignore the HP and Tq claims... they're all inflated figures anyway.

You're not going to feel a 10 HP difference, what you will feel (which makes it seem more powerful) is quicker throttle response, firmer shifts, and adjusting shift points... and some other things that do help the engines run more efficient if you have the ability to adjust the fuel trims and such. Unless you're doing other mods that require tuning to adjust for (such as cam swaps, forced induction, etc), the actual power gains are usually a moot point.

So IMO, look at a $$ Vs. Features of the programmer. Get the one that lets you adjust the most in terms of tires/gears/shift points/etc. Almost all of the programmers will increase the throttle response in their "canned" tune since that's probably the #1 SOTP's improvement in driveability.

The Hyprtech programmer claims to do all of the above but, they didn't make one for the '06s.

[Sal-XK]

If it's worth it or not is up to you bro. If you dedicated to getting more HP then you must start somewhere. Maybe check a tuner shop and get someone to write you a custome tune. I think new gears would give you the kick your looking for but that starts all it's own problems right there.

[strokeZ]

Just to fully answer your question IamJeep - do I think it's worth it? Well if I had to do it all over again I would pick up a programmer rather than a chip. The additional functionality with a programmer that Matt_ mentions to me is worth the increase in cost over a chip. Don't forget that with a programmer you can also dial in your tire size to get accurate mph and mileage calcs in the computer.

[IamJEEP]

Just to fully answer your question IamJeep - do I think it's worth it? Well if I had to do it all over again I would pick up a programmer rather than a chip. The additional functionality with a programmer that Matt_ mentions to me is worth the increase in cost over a chip. Don't forget that with a programmer you can also dial in your tire size to get accurate mph and mileage calcs in the computer.

Thank you (& everyone else) for your input. I agree that it is best to wait for a programmer with more tunning abilities to come out.

I ordered a speedo re-calculator for my tire set-up, i should have it mid-week, next week.

[strokeZ]

If i could find a shop to make me a tune without having to sell them my girlfriend, then i would think it would be worth it. Gear swaps.......

BTW...girlfriends are easier to find than Commanders ;-)

[IamJEEP]

BTW...girlfriends are easier to find than Commanders ;-)

LOL, you are right but this one is a keeper.

[IamJEEP]

If it's worth it or not is up to you bro. If you dedicated to getting more HP then you must start somewhere. Maybe check a tuner shop and get someone to write you a custome tune. I think new gears would give you the kick your looking for but that starts all it's own problems right there.

It's not really worth it to me, at least not 10 or 15hp. If i could find a shop to make me a tune without having to sell them my girlfriend, then i would think it would be worth it. Gear swaps.......ahh, too much of a headache for this vehicle to even think about.