Who Should Jon Be

[cico7]

Out of all people you think my comments were offensive?

the term offensive is relative, objectionable is a better descriptor. But as you see, i am not the only person who felt you were out of order.

Here is another example of censorship, he deleted his post. Are you going to delete this too?

[07JeepXK]

Here is another example of censorship, he deleted his post. Are you going to delete this too?

Actually, Im at work and was editing the post right after i wrote what I did and got the blue screen of death on my government computer as I was doing it. When I was able to get the computer up and running again my post was no where to be found. I dont write posts...post them and then delete my comments afterwords. That would make no sense. I have nothing to hide. And further more, why why I delete your recent post?

[cico7]

Actually, Im at work and was editing the post right after i wrote what I did and got the blue screen of death on my government computer as I was doing it. When I was able to get the computer up and running again my post was no where to be found. I dont write posts...post them and then delete my comments afterwords. That would make no sense. I have nothing to hide. And further more, why why I delete your recent post?

what?
So this is where my tax dollars are going? Paying people to talk on forums while they are supposed to be working?
(that was just a little dig, not a serious remark, otherwise, when would Sal get to talk to us?)

[07JeepXK]

Its funny because im actually getting a lot of work done. lol Just good at multi-tasking. Im not on often while at work but appear to be the only on in the office today?!?!

[El Cid]

Apparently several members were offended by that comment I made. So you shouldn't be agreeing with me.

Why do I picture you pouting here?

Seriously, I don't think anyone is really "offended" here. In terms of your comments, the point was that at least some of us are concerned about the fact that your reaction, as a Super Moderator, was to belittle the forum members who think this is a valid forum issue.

Whether you agree or not, the simple fact is that some folks -- myself included -- were concerned about the long-term impact of having someone consistently posting across the site under two names. It is a fact that this was confusing many people. It is also a fact that it happens to be in violation of forum rules unless there is one standard for Jon and one for the rest of us. The issue was thus raised because it could adversely affect the long-term health of what has been a growing and vibrant forum (if you don't understand why this is so, I tried to get something similar across in the Conflict of Interest thread).

However, nobody is screaming about the issue that I can see. No one is "whining." No one is kicking sand or threatening to burn the whole place down if they don't get their stapler back. It certainly isn't anything personal. I've yet to see anyone, anywhere on this site, go into "flame war" mode. People (particularly prospective supporting vendors) just want clarity. Getting an answer, in other words, might be more important than what the answer actually is.

I for one am trying to help. I am trying to ensure that this wonderful forum continues to bloom. I think that's what you want, too. That means we're on the same side. Telling me I'm childish and overreacting or that I need to put my head back in the sand, therefore, can only serve to harm what we both want to preserve. How about instead we come together for a communal, constructive solution that is to the betterment of all -- just as Jon has helped to make happen through his laudable and highly constructive decision to take the bull by the horns and make this a public and transparent discussion?

. . .

As Matt suggests, I think the only thing left is to get the final decision of Jon/Knappster/SA/Owner/Admin/Forum Father in light of our collective thoughts. It's his choice in the end, though he has kindly considered our input.

Everyone will then know how he wants to proceed, and forum members (or potential members) can decide how they want to proceed.

So what say you, Jon?

[GPintheMitten]

Huh?
I thought anyone could delete their own post. That wouldn't be censorship.

Here is another example of censorship, he deleted his post. Are you going to delete this too?

[cico7]

Huh?
I thought anyone could delete their own post. That wouldn't be censorship.

If you are a moderator and delete a controversial statement to hide something you said, I feel it censorship.
He did come back and explain what had happened to his post...and the subject was dropped.

Jon began this discussion on another thread because of what may appear to be a conflict of interest.
This thread was to get feed back on identity. The intent here (this thread) was to discuss the who, not the why

[07JeepXK]

...and I appologize for the statements that I made earlier in the thread. They were a bit harsh.

[Matt]

...and I appologize for the statements that I made earlier in the thread. They were a bit harsh.

...careful.... Sal might fill this thread full of "huggy smilies" if you keep talking like that

[07JeepXK]

...careful.... Sal might fill this thread full of "huggy smilies" if you keep talking like that

This is true....