have the spacer came in yet?
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have the spacer came in yet?
alright man, they should be there by now. and my lift and tires will be put on in about a week! im excited and dont get to see it for about another 5 months LOL
haha yeah its gonna look totally different!
Haha yeah but its going to look nice!
I got those spacers.... they look great on my friends WK!!
And Tristan, I told my fiance I wouldn't buy the spacers until end of the month so I am hiding them at Matt's :)
What spacers are you guys talking about
Corey's wheel spacers.
Ahhh those things are over rated.. Lol
So Adam are we still doing QTII vs QDII (Please remember I am not as crazy as you) :)
Adams not QTII anymore
Lets call QTIII....or QDI since he has 1 locker instead of "II"
:( I feel so lonely
Why? You have a Hemi :cool:
I like QD I. So will I be QD II when I install a front ELSD?
Can't really call it QDII since its still different.... we'll just call it QD+ (Since QD was WJ's that las f/r LS's and QDII was WK/XK)
Either way, Its still SICK!!! I love being locked in the rear.
I'd rather have the locker first over the lift. Without traction you can't do nothing. Then the superlift!
I disagree. The QTII system provides plenty of "traction". I'd take the QTII + superlift + bigger tires over a standard lifted XK with QTII + locker. Our clearance is pitiful. Even at Rausch creek QTI will take you through ANY trail that we have the clearance to make it through (with proper skids/protection anyways). Regardless of which 4x4 system we're running you can't get to that next level without the superlift.
plus a superlift gets you street/mall cred!
I love my modified superlift!!
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Well I kind of have to disagree with you about the QT I. Jay with the 4 inch lifted WK came to Rausch Creek with me when I blew the transfer case and he couldn't do half the trails I did especially when it came to hill climbs. And I was only running 265's at the time and he was running 33x12.50's. he was banging the front crossmember off everything and getting hung up all the time on stuff I drove right over. When it came to the hill climb his WK was way under powered and also couldnt get the traction needed due to not having 4 low. I used to wheel there with my buddy's 6 inch lifted FJ on 35s and I made it down every black trail he did with my minimal ground clearance. The traction of a QT II isn't bad but at the same time destroys the drive train when it applies the brake to a spinning wheel. Since you guys really aren't going to do any crazy trails there he would benefit from the locker over the extra 2 inches of lift.
And I love wheeling with huge lifted trucks on 36+ inch tires with crazy ground clearance that get buried because they have open differentials front and rear. Again traction is a key element in wheeling. Not sure why were even talking about this. Lol superlift isn't even available and ill make a bet it won't be available for a long time!
I've done every trail there my XK is capable of going through without the additional approach/departure angles and belly clearance the superlift provides and not a single one of them would "require" the rear locker with the QTII system.
I guess it depends on how bad you're willing to smash your undercarriage and possibly body panels against stuff. I get the feeling that Corey is a bit like me and doesn't want to beat the crap out of our vehicles to get it through something.
I dont know how Jay's vehicle was setup but driver ability also plays a huge role. My buddy with his 3.7L QTI WK has made it up some serious stuff (one climb where even you swore he couldn't get up IIRC)
Truck for truck, i'd put a superlifted 5.7L QTII w/33s over a 2" lifted 5.7L QTII w/32s & rear locker any day of the week, especially at Rausch.
So now all of the sudden that you have a lunchbox locker in the rear you're comparing the QTII system to a basic drivetrain with open diffs?
Case in point Tim (3.7L QTI) WALKED up a climb that a TJ with 35s struggled to make it up because of his open diffs.
You weren't there for this trip... but this guy was blushing at a few places and i believe ordered a locker within the next day or so after the trip lol
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Well I guess I can agree with you about the last statement but the 4 inch Superlift isnt available and I will bet that it wont be available for awhile. Members waited 5+ months for it to arrive and ended up having to cancel the order. So with that in mind, why not spend the money to add a rear locker and save the beating on the drive train. Applying the brakes to a wheel that has all the power going to it totally beats on the internals of the differential/transfer case of a QT II. You dont have this problem because you have one of the most superior 4wd sustems on the market that uses ELSD's.
Jay has a 4 inch lift running 33x12.5's. He has been wheeling all his life just like us. What I was referring to was the fact that his crossmember hangs a lot lower then an XK/WK running an OME lift which was getting hung up on rocks on blue trails that we would drive right over.
I wasnt comparing the QT II system to a vehicle that has open differentials. We both know the QT II will beat open differentials hands down. Remember the wrangler I had to tow up the hill climb at Rausch Creek that had open diffs. And I did that with a bad transfer case. I used the statement of big lifted trucks with huge tires and open differentials to show that lift isnt everything. You also need traction at the same time. I know the QT II system works well off road but after wheeling last week with the rear locked its so much more capable and not as harsh on the drive train. Ask Sal about the noise our front end makes when the brakes are applied to a wheel that loses traction. Its not good!
Of course lift isn't everything.... lol anytime a WK or XK goes offroad we prove that fact :cool:
My point was you made it sound like Corey would be so much better off with the noslip over the superlift, which I didn't agree with..... and it sounds like I misinterpreted you because you said you agree with me lol. And like you said, if the superlift isn't available then yes, of course I agree id get the locker for exactly the reasons you mentioned. But I don't think Corey is going to make that type of purchase for quite some time; so hopefully im installing two superlifts and not 1 locker next year.... :D
LMAO you were 2 posts away from me setting up a Adam Vs Sal offroad challenge! Figured the only way to see how much that locker helped ya was to pit you against another QTII owner who's as crazy as yourself! haha :p
....wait a second.... thats still a good idea..... SAAALLLLLLL!
I'm back! and I am glad to see the debate on my garage thread. GET THE **** OUT OF MY GARAGE........kidding.
I am constantly learning from you guys and the price difference of the SL to the locker is pretty significant (especially since the SL is having so many issues of being ordered/delivered) I am not sure what route I will go after sliders. I will be FULL armored in January RC trip with sliders and front guard; so after that I need to think hard if I want the locker or keep saving cash for the SL.
And yes Matt is right, I will never beat my XK to get through any trail. I am excited for the challenge of the blues but I will never push the XK too far.